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Health coach turned podcaster, Chase interviews industry leaders in fitness nutrition and mindset. Messages to help you live a life EVER FORWARD.

Chase Chewning, MS, ACE CHC

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Danielle Ryan Broida is back to talk about healing adaptogens – what they are, how to choose the right superfoods for your body type, and how to utilize them to increase vitality, boost brain function, decrease stress, and so much more.

If you’re stressed, nutrient deficient, or relying on unhealthy coping mechanisms to get through the day, adaptogens might just change your life! Listen in to learn the science and history behind adaptogens along with practical ways you can incorporate them into your daily routine.

Danielle is a certified holistic nutritionist, registered clinical herbalist, wellness coach, Head of Education at Four Sigmatic, and author of “Healing Adaptogens: The Definitive Guide to Using Super Herbs and Mushrooms for Your Body’s Restoration, Defense, and Performance”. 

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Key Highlights

  • What is an adaptogen? Why all the hype? Danielle breaks down the three characteristics that qualify a plant or mushroom as an adaptogen, how adaptogens affect the mind and body, and the various uses of adaptogens based on body type and lifestyle.

  • The quickest way to reverse the cycle of caffeine and/or pharmaceutical dependence, stress, exhaustion, and poor sleep is adding adaptogens into your daily life.

  • Danielle sheds light on the best adaptogens for performance, stress management, recovery, boosting libido, and boosting energy. These include cacao, ashwagandha, rhodiola, tulsi, maca root, goji berries, and functional mushrooms like reishi, chaga, and cordyceps. Tune in to learn more!

Powerful Quotes by Danielle Ryan Broida

Of course you’re stressed. Look what’s going on and look at what’s against you. And yet, there are allies… these are homies here to help us.

We can choose the right species for our body once we know our body and once we know the plant energetics. There is such a significant improvement in the benefits that that plant or mushroom has in the body when you have… done that correctly.

If we don’t have the resources or the ability or maybe the desire to bring something new into our diet, whether it’s an adaptogen or a new way of eating, we have breath that’s accessible to every single one of us at every moment and there’s so much power in a slight manipulation in the way that we breathe.

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Brian Murphy and Ryan Seaman of Living Prana, creators of PranaCakes and BrainCakes, talk about the benefits of functional foods and superfoods in promoting healing and balance in the body. They also detail how their company, Living Prana, is supporting the world-wide evolution of mental health and wellness.

Stress is oftentimes all we know as humans.

Many people are in a constant state of stress and their body is so used to it, they don’t even know what it’s like to be in a state of balance.

Stress can be created in your home environment, your career, past traumas, an imbalance in the body, and countless other sources. Tune in to learn how you can reduce stress, eliminate brain fog, and bring your body and mind back to balance - all by eating pancakes!

Ryan Seaman and Brian Murphy are the Co-Founders of Living Prana, a company pioneering functional foods and building a nutritional pyramid on three fundamental tenets: Food as Medicine, Body as Temple, and Earth as Essential. They’re on a mission to make this world a better place, one pancake at a time.

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Key Highlights

  • Ryan and Brian share the origin of Living Prana, a product that was born out of Burning Man and fueled by a psychedelic healing journey.

  • The duo highlights the health benefits of adaptogens, such as ashwagandha, and how adaptogens, along with other wellness practices, can be used to bring your body out of a state of stress and into a state of balance. Chase also shares his personal experience of how adaptogens changed the quality of his daily life.

  • Why do we reach for foods as a quick fix, rather than a long-term health solution? How long does it take to see the effects of functional mushrooms?

  • Functional mushrooms are the superfood of the future! Brian and Ryan speak on the mind-blowing benefits of consistently consuming functional mushrooms, like Cordyceps, Chaga, and Lion’s Mane. 

  • When you’re integrating something new into your diet, especially with superfoods that have intense flavors, it can be tricky to stay consistent with it. Brian and Ryan share tips for integrating superfoods into your diet in delicious, enjoyable ways so you can continuously reap their benefits.

  • Health education and awareness are keys to enhancing the health and wellness of the world, but so are sustainability and transparency in business. Listen in to learn how Prana Living is prioritizing sustainability and transparency in their business practices.

Powerful Quotes by Brian and Ryan

Chaga - that’s another one that, for me, having used it for a number of years now, I’m on the edge of 50 years old now and I still feel like I’m 25.

It’s a conscious way of doing business. It’s a new paradigm… transparency [and] sustainability are two really important pillars for us.

What is necessary now is functional medicine, functional food. It’s such a relevant factor in where we are in our evolutionary process and so, we’re just super stoked to be part of the movement.

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Chase and May are back to discuss healthy relationships; the one with yourself and with your partner. Do you think your partner loves the gym more than you? Are you finding it difficult to get them on board with healthy food options? Do you argue about how you don't make time for them? Tune in to learn how Chase and May maintain their own healthy habits (and have for nearly a decade) as well as empower each other through clear communication to live their best lives individually and as a healthy, thriving couple.

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Britt Frank is a trauma therapist and the author of The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward.

Today’s conversation centers largely on the topic of emotional regression: that all-too-common anxiety-inducing feeling that you are younger than your chronological age. Britt says that this is an issue that needs to be talked about more, because it can affect anybody regardless of their mental health status—even the most successful men and women in society.

Some signs of emotional regression? Indecisiveness, fear of making people angry, can’t say “no”, emotional explosions, wanting to be the “favorite” child/employee/friend, imposter syndrome, and many more.

Believing that “surviving childhood is trauma in and of itself,” Britt asserts that, “if you don’t grieve the fact that your childhood is over, you end up repeating it.”

At the same time, Britt notes that humans are a “sliding scale”, constantly swinging from equilibrium to one extreme to another and back again.

According to Britt, instead of trying to practice “self-regulation” all the time on one end, or being overly emotional and passionate on the other, we need to be willing to embrace a dynamic way of life. This way, we allow ourselves to consciously shift from one emotional state to each other, and from a state of high energy to a state of rest, acknowledging that how we feel is completely and utterly how our body wants us to feel in the moment.

Britt reminds us that “our brain is on our side”—that anxiety is simply a sign telling us that something needs to be addressed. This means allowing ourselves to grieve, as opposed to suppressing that grief, is what will ultimately lead to our healing.

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Key Highlights

  • Britt breaks down the phenomenon of “emotional regression”: those excruciating moments—usually taking place around one’s parents—where one feels younger than their actual age, and why many of even the most successful individuals go through it.

  • Like the titular character in Alice in Wonderland, emotional regression makes us feel too big one moment and too small the next: your “yes” was really a “no”; you feel guilty when you fail and guilty when you succeed; you feel like an imposter half the time and a narcissistic monster the other half.

  • Britt describes emotional regression as a psychological longing for “home”—by extension defining homeostasis as feeling at home in your body, mind, and heart.

  • Britt unpacks grief as it relates to emotional regression and lays out the four steps to healthy grieving. She also explains why she sees anxiety as a superpower that can help us get unstuck on our road to healing.

  • You don’t need to wait until you’ve hit rock-bottom to change. Britt shares how you can start taking those baby steps to turn your life around today, and explains why feeling “fine” is far from fine.

Powerful Quotes

It’s very hard to feel your chronological age every second of every minute of every day. [...] Anytime you’re feeling smaller or younger or less powerful than your chronological age, that’s called “emotional regression”.

Our nervous systems, our brains, are not wired to be in a steady state. It drives me bananas when people sell self-regulation as the ultimate goal of wellness. You’re not supposed to be self-regulated all the time! [...] All of the things we want—passion, creativity, inspiration, success—are all on the edges of human experience.

Balance is not the goal. The goal is to be able to shift between states to know where you are on the roadmap and to feel like you have a choice rather than responding all the time to things flying at you.

Time does not heal all wounds. Doing the work of grieving heals all wounds.

Some people may have it worse, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have a right to your pain.

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Society has changed, technology has changed, the way we work has changed, everything has changed! Change can feel overwhelming or confusing, but not if you know how to change with it.

Allow us to introduce you to the one and only, Jason Feifer, editor in chief of Entrepreneur magazine, podcast host, author, startup advisor, keynote speaker, and “nonstop optimism machine”. Jason believes that change is inevitable, but thriving is up to you… and he’s here to tell you how.

In this discussion, Chase and Jason talk about the present and future of work, what’s changed in the workforce and entrepreneurship space over the past two years (since covid began), and how to create opportunities and innovation in your life and business.

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Key Highlights

  • The pandemic has caused many companies to restructure their organization and work flows. If we focused less how much time people are spending working and instead focused more on what they produce, we can start to create more flexibility in how people work together. 

  • Efficiency is necessary, but it can be the death of innovation. Do you know what really killed Kodak? Facebook. 

  • Every company needs someone (or a team) whose job is to come up with new opportunities. The best type of opportunity you can pursue is the opportunity that is available to you that nobody is asking you to do.

  • How do ensure we’re moving forward in a direction of expansion? Tune in to hear a story from Jason that illustrates his answer.

  • What is Jason’s billion dollar question he wants entrepreneurs to ask themselves? He dedicated a whole blank page in his new book for this question: What is it for?

  • “It’s just so valuable for all of us if we can think about the cycle of change we’re in right now as the conscious cycle,” Jason says, “This is the one that you pay attention to, that you take notes on, that you have documented evidence… so that when you get through it… [and] the next time you go through it, you can look back and you can say… it’s gonna work out again.”

Powerful Quotes by Jason Feifer

If everything that you do is judged [on] whether or not it is perfect… you’ll never do a new thing because every new thing is going to be imperfect.

Something that I think confuses people and drives a lot of fear of change is that people feel like the new MUST wholesale replace the old.

I worked my job without knowing what the next job was. You can’t know what it is but I will tell you that if you don’t prepare yourself for it, then you’re never going to get it when the time comes.

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How do you find meaning and stillness in your daily life? That could sound like a loaded question, but if you take a step back and think about it, meaning and stillness are things we get to relish in every single day… if we’re mindful about it!

Eli Weinstein, a Licensed Clinical Social Work Therapist, is passionate about sharing tips and tools for no BS mental health, wellness, and everyday life. He’s here to do just that.

In this discussion, Chase and Eli talk about navigating parenthood, partnership, and your relationship with yourself. He shares his simple, yet powerful techniques for minimizing anxiety, stress, overwhelm, and the societal noise we’re constantly exposed to. Then, he sheds light on three major mental health issues the world is facing right now and why we should be aware of them.

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Key Highlights

  • Eli explains how to begin the process of “dating yourself”, getting to know yourself, and developing a healthy relationship with the Self. Remember, start small.

  • Choosing to not do things can be just as powerful as choosing to do things. He details the impact of stillness on everything from productivity to self-awareness and relaxation, touching on how he finds stillness with ADHD. 

  • The intensity of social media can cause our brain to go into survival mode, creating an internal stress system pumping adrenaline into your body. Turn off your push notifications, avoid mindless scrolling, and avoid picking up your phone the second you wake up.

  • At the root, taking care of yourself and enhancing the quality of your life is about learning how to just BE with yourself, your thoughts, and your feelings, learning to enjoy your life where you’re at (not through a screen).

  • When we isolate ourselves, we get stuck in our thoughts and we feel alone. The pandemic caused a lot of isolation, whether we wanted it or not, and that’s a slippery slope to mental illness.

  • Embrace your whole self, your inner and outer worlds, and get help when you need it. It might just change your entire life.

Powerful Quotes by Eli Weinstein

If you don’t know how to take care of yourself, how are you supposed to show up in a better way? Now, you’re not going to be 100%, ever. You’re not going to be able to know… how to navigate every situation that comes up, but as you learn… Can you pivot? Can you adjust? Can you go into yourself and figure something out and then go forward?

Do things that ground you every day and give you the sense of quality that you feel like you are living your life and not life living you.

With all the tides changing… I think, for the first time in a long time, the positive takeaway from covid is that people are getting treatment and help for their mental health and emotional stability.

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What would happen if you approached both your relationships with yourself and your partner through a lens of curiosity instead of judgment and resentment? 

Chances are you’d experience more love, comfort, and happiness.

In this episode, John Kim and Vanessa Bennett share their best insights on cultivating a quality relationship with yourself and your partner, the hard work it takes to “relationship better”, and tips and tactics for overcoming the barriers to having a healthy relationship. Most importantly, John and Vanessa talk about the power of approaching relationships through a lens of curiosity instead of judgment. 

John and Vanessa, two psychologists, therapists, and life partners are the authors of the new book, “It’s Not Me, It’s You: Break the Blame Cycle. Relationship Better”. In its pages, as well as in this episode, the pair analyzes their own relationship to help untangle the common and frustrating barriers many individuals face on the road to a happy, loving, rewarding partnership.

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Key Highlights

  • John and Vanessa talk about how to constructively call your partner out. The trick? Trying to understand before trying to be understood.

  • You’ll learn how to open up in a relationship and build trusting communication with your partner instead of sweeping issues and conflicts under the rug.

  • You don’t know everything about your partner, which is exciting! John and Vanessa break down why it’s important to get out of judgment and get into curiosity and how to go about doing that in your partnership.

  • Fire needs air, meaning if you want passion, you need desire, space, and an understanding of and connection with the self. If you do things for yourself that excite you, you’ll be more able to be excited by your partner.

  • Is it okay to fantasize about and be attracted to other people when you’re in a relationship? Tune in to hear John and Vanessa’s answers!

Powerful Quotes by John and Vanessa

Judgment and curiosity can’t live in the same space.

You’re either connecting with yourself or disconnecting.

When I think of what does it mean to be ever forward… it means living a life of fascination.  

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More about their work:

"Two therapists analyze their own relationship to help untangle the common and frustrating barriers many individuals face on the road to a happy, loving, rewarding partnership.

Many of the clients who end up in our respective therapist offices thought they were doing relationships right—avoiding the white picket fence, focusing on careers and experiences over babies and legally-binding documents, choosing someone after they “found themselves” first. However, like clockwork, around their early to mid-thirties, these clients show up at our door. Why? For the first time, they realize that they dislike their relationship and are frustrated by their partner but know that another break-up won’t fix things. They recognize a pattern of relationship misery that has them finally looking in the mirror asking, how do you make a relationship last?

It took us many relationships, our own inner self journey (which we’re still on), therapy, therapy school, and helping thousands of people with their relationships, to learn to have better ones ourselves. Vanessa woke up at 31, after ending an engagement and moving to Los Angeles. John thought he woke up at 35 after his divorce. But he didn’t truly wake up until he was pushing 40. 

In It’s Not Me, It’s You, John and Vanessa dissect their own relationship to help readers figure out theirs: what their relationships were like in the past, what traumas they carried into the new relationship, and how they work on growing together to foster a healthy and long-term bond.

The surprising truth is falling in love is more about you than your partner. It’s more about challenge and growth than comfort and ease, and roots don’t grow from wishful thinking—they grow in the soil of communication, curiosity, patience, and understanding.

It’s Not Me, It’s You is for anyone looking for real advice on relationships that takes both sides into account and discusses relationships with the honesty and clarity we all need.


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Colin O'Brady talks about his life of adventure, tragedy, and perseverance. He details the 12-hour walk that changed his life, how to overcome your biggest limiting beliefs (including not having enough money), and what it means to live life with a “Possible Mindset”.

Colin is a 10-time world record breaking explorer and one of the world’s best endurance athletes. He isn’t your typical adventurer despite his unmatched athletic accomplishments including a world-first solo crossing of Antarctica, a world-first ocean row across Drake Passage (from South America to Antarctica), and summiting Mt. Everest twice. Colin is an expert on mindset, a highly sought-after keynote speaker and a New York Times bestselling author. He’s also a television host, an executive producer and an entrepreneur who has built and sold companies. And, he’s done it all after overcoming a devastating accident - that nearly left him unable to walk - to prove that anything is possible.

If you were told you could never walk again, would you believe it or would you start training for a triathlon? By the end of this episode, you’ll likely pick the latter.

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Key Highlights

  • Colin shares his “why” behind the extreme endurance challenges he’s accomplished, from rowing Drake Passage to being the first human to cross Antarctica solo pulling a 375lb sled with no support. He also talks about what it was like to be told he’ll never walk again after suffering a tragic accident in a remote part of Thailand.

  • Listen in as he breaks down the meaning behind his mom’s “Possible Mindset” and how he’s used it to unlock a life full of unlimited possibility.

  • Colin speaks on how he gained traction and maintained momentum after severe injury. He notes the power of overcoming limiting beliefs, the fear of failure, and a scarcity mindset.

  • What will a 12-hour walk do to your body and mind? Tune in to find out!

Powerful Quotes by Colin O'Brady

All of us humans, we have reservoirs of untapped potential to achieve extraordinary things, particularly when facing adversity.

The mindset of abundance is not a get rich quick scheme… but it is saying ‘what’s possible within that “Possible Mindset” framework?’

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More about Colin's work:

"From the New York Times bestselling author of The Impossible First, a compelling blend of riveting adventure stories and hard-won wisdom that teaches us how to overcome our limiting beliefs and embark on a transformative one-day journey that will unlock our best lives. Millions of people dream of living a more fulfilling life, yet many settle for a life of comfortable complacency, allowing excuses and negative thoughts to invade their minds. I don’t have enough time…I don’t have enough money…I’m afraid to fail...I don’t have what it takes—we allow these limiting beliefs to control us. Now comes The 12-Hour Walk, which provides the inspiration—and catalyst—for getting unstuck and realizing your full potential. Featuring life lessons from explorer, endurance athlete, and entrepreneur Colin O’Brady—whose adventures in such extreme places as Antarctica and the perilous Drake Passage and on the peaks of Mount Everest and K2 have seen him establish ten world records—this book’s vivid narrative and powerful insight will show you how you can embark on your own life-changing journey. With Colin as your guide, The 12-Hour Walk asks you to invest one day in yourself. The goal? Conquering your mind and becoming your best self. By walking alone, unplugging, listening to the voice within, and rewriting the limiting beliefs etched into your psyche, you can break free of the patterns holding you back and learn how to cultivate a “Possible Mindset”—an empowered way of thinking that unlocks a life of limitless possibilities. The reward: being the hero of your own destiny."


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Chase talks with Kathryn Fantauzzi about the impact of stress on our physiology and well-being, how to become aware of and manage your stressors, and the secret to becoming more resilient. Kathryn shares how to understand and apply heart rate variability (HRV) and everything else you need to know about keeping your nervous system balanced and recovered so you can accomplish everything you set your mind to.

Kathryn Fantauzzi is the Co-Founder and CEO of Apollo Neuroscience, which has developed the first scientifically-validated wearable technology that actively improves energy, focus & sleep.

Take a deep breath. Unclench your jaw. Relax your shoulders. This week, we’re exploring all things stress, resiliency, and nervous system recovery.

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Key Highlights

  • How do you define stress? “Stress is life, life is stress,” she says. Kathryn believes it’s all about keeping a balance of good stressors and bad stressors and making sure there’s enough recovery in your life so you’re able to cope and be resilient to stress.

  • If we change our mindset around stress, can we eliminate stress from our life or even use stress as fuel for growth? Kathryn explains the role of awareness, perception, and mindset in stress management.

  • Learn the signs and symptoms of chronic stress and how it affects the body as well as the relationship between HRV, human connection, and longevity.

  • Apollo Neuro is a wearable device that uses low frequency sound waves to change the balance of your nervous system. Listen in to hear about the many benefits of Apollo, including managing stress responses, maximizing performance, improving the quality of your sleep, and balancing the circadian rhythm. 

Powerful Quotes by Kathryn Fantauzzi

When you have more stressors than normal, your resiliency is down and you actually can’t bounce back and you can’t perform and you start to see what happens to your health and your well-being and your overall capacity to grow and learn and be this strong, resilient go-getter.

This isn’t a replacement for meditation or for breathwork or for exercise, it’s not. All of those things are critical for your health. Apollo is there to help support you and make those things easier. 

If you set a goal and you set an intention and you baby step your way there, you will get there.

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More about Kathryn

"Kathryn Fantauzzi is on a mission to change lives. She is a CEO, speaker, and a thought leader at the convergence of health, tech, and data.

Kathryn has led world-class teams and multimillion-dollar projects to deliver breakthrough tech commercialization for the Energy Research and Development Authority in New York. She is now CEO and Co-Founder of Apollo Neuroscience, a new technology that improves sleep, focus, and mood through your body’s natural response to soothing touch. In just a few years, Kathryn transformed Apollo Neuro from an idea in a university lab into a powerful tool that has already helped tens of thousands of people.

Kathryn was born and raised in New York, holds a B.A. from Smith College and a Master of Public Administration (MPA) in behavioral economics and finance from the Rockefeller College of Public Affairs and Policy. Kathryn has lectured on innovation, the intersection of research and business, and entrepreneurship at leading conferences like CES and universities including Brown University, and the University of Pittsburgh. Her most recent awards include the 2021 EY Entrepreneur of the Year, the 2020 SXSW Innovation Award, and the Paley Center’s 2020 Best of CES.

When not solving for some of the world’s toughest problems, you can find Kathryn whipping up dinner for family and friends, hiking up a trail, cycling down a mountain, swimming, sailing, or skiing."


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Aug 31, 2022

EFR 633: More Passion, More Love, and How to Live in Total Alignment with Erica Lippy

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How to live a more passionate, aligned life… it’s something we’re all wondering, but this week’s guest seems to have the secret formula.

Erica Lippy is a life and wellness coach, renowned fit model, podcaster, and creator of Passion Love Pursuit, and intentional movement that encourages you to be your best self, living a vibrant life more passionately and purposefully. 

In this discussion, Chase and Erica talk about what it takes to live a more aligned, intentional life full of passion and purpose. They speak on the power of embodying your values, separating who you are from who people perceive you to be, and prioritizing self-love while in a relationship. Erica shares her bits of wisdom on seeking discomfort, building confidence, and maximizing self-growth.

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Key Highlights

  • Erica breaks down her holistic morning routine and shares how she uses superfoods like functional mushrooms and cacao, particularly in the morning, to optimize and “hack” her health.

  • Confidence comes from mastering your body physically, mentally, and emotionally. “Very much of what you do in your life is all about being accountable and keeping your word to yourself and your standards,” Erica says.

  • How do you live an aligned life? What does it feel like to embody your values and beliefs? Listen in as Emily shares her candid answers!

  • Erica talks about her experience being a fit model, how it affected her relationship with her body, and how it drove her to find her life’s purpose.

  • If you’re uncomfortable being alone, question that. Get curious why and go deep. What are you missing? What are you attached to? What needs to change? Get quieter with yourself and that will uncover why you feel that way. 

Powerful Quotes by Erica Lippy

Everything I do is because I love it, it feels good, and the outcome is outweighing the uncomfortableness.

We should always step into what’s uncomfortable because what’s on the other side is always growth.

The most powerful thing we have is choice. I believe, personally, that self-acceptance is the pathway to self-love.

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Saad Alam is the CEO of Hone, a health and wellness company dedicated to helping men take charge of their lives and be the best they can be, especially as they get older. Hone believes that your body can be optimized to reach your peak performance for whatever it is that matters in your life. Whether it’s running an Iron Man at 45 or running in the backyard with your kids after a day in the office.

In this discussion, Chase and Saad talk about new and unique approaches to men’s health, the misconceptions around Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT), and the real impact of chemicals and microplastics on hormone levels and fertility. Saad gives insight into what it feels like to have low testosterone levels and a few habits and actions you can take to maintain your hormone levels as you age. 

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Key Highlights

  • How are we, as men, supposed to show up in the world? What harmful narratives about manhood have we held on to that are no longer serving us? Saad sheds light on the biggest needs for men’s health right now in 2022 compared to when we were growing up and becoming men. 

  • Chase shares his experience before and after Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT) as a man in his mid-30s. Saad describes what it was like to be diagnosed with hypogonadism (low testosterone levels) and why it’s beneficial to split up your testosterone doses.

  • How do you feel better and maintain your masculinity as you get older? Is testosterone the primary hormone men should be paying attention to? Tune in to find out!

  • Saad answers: What does it feel like to have low testosterone levels? What happens to men’s bodies as they age? He then highlights the things men can do to maintain their hormone levels and slow the aging process.

  • Don’t wait until you hit rock bottom to take action. If you’re not feeling yourself, reach out to your doctor and consider using Hone to test your hormone levels or learn more about optimizing men’s health!

Powerful Quotes by Saad Alam

The way people used to think was that as you get older, you kind of start nailing it in, and what the reality is is that’s completely bullshit. If you take care of yourself, if you have the right mental, physical, emotional mindset as well, you can actually continue to progress and only get better as you get older.

For people that have really low testosterone, it feels like you’re kind of depressed, it feels like you’re a little heartbroken, and it feels like you are actually a little bit hungover… You don’t have energy, you can’t focus, you don’t feel like yourself, you’re always walking in a little bit of a haze.

The medication is not what changes you. The medication gives you a little bit of momentum in your life so you have a little bit more energy and when you have a little bit of momentum and some more energy in your life, you then have to take it and do something useful with it… By doing those things, you then start to build your confidence back up.

The way you are feeling is very often in direction relationship to what is happening in your body and the chemistry.

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Marc Champagne is dedicated to helping people level up their mental fitness and the host of the top 50 ranked podcast Behind The Human and co-founder of the journaling app (KYO) which reached 86.9 million people without any paid advertising. He is the author of Personal Socrates: Questions That Will Upgrade Your Life from Legends & World-Class Performers.

As a “mental fitness strategist”, Marc has consulted with and spoken for many Fortune 500 companies on streamlining their systems and processes for increased employee happiness and organizational efficiency.

Marc defines “mental fitness” as an umbrella term for anything you can do to train your mind—whether to boost your mental health, mental resilience, mental performance, etc.

Listen in as Marc shares how anyone can build mental fortitude by asking themselves the right questions at every stage of life. Continuous growth, according to Marc, lies in pondering over these two basic questions to start with:

“Who am I now?” and “Who am I optimizing to become?”

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Key Highlights

  • How do you know if you’re asking yourself the right questions? Marc gives us some of his go-to prompts which he writes about in Personal Socrates.

  • After closing down his first business, Marc once again had to ask himself the question, “What will give me purpose?” He explains how asking it felt the second time around after achieving massive success once.

  • Marc talks about how anyone can start a mental fitness practice today for just a few minutes a day.

  • Marc shares the daily habits he follows which maximize his creativity.

  • One of the biggest impediments to growth is our tendency to rest on our laurels. Marc shares how we can ensure we don’t get stuck on “maintenance mode” in our life and career.

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Powerful Quotes

A good question gives us the luxury of a pause. Asked at the right time, a question can literally change our life.

Everything starts and stops with the mind.

As long as we can keep our curiosity alive, we will always err on the side of progress.


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