Michael Chernow believes that anyone can reinvent themselves. The New York-based restaurateur, TV host, and fitness personality came a long way, recalling a past defined by depression, unemployment, and crumbling relationships with his own family.

“I hated myself, truly,” Michael admits. Everything changed one day when he walked into a Muay Thai gym and was gently yet firmly led by his instructors to live a life of physical wellness (which included a daily bowl of oatmeal for breakfast) along with a heavy dose of self-respect.

Asked about fear, Michael distinguishes between living in fear and living with fear and why he believes that the key to growth is through giving up the former and learning to deal with the latter. As for his own fears, Michael says that he has never had a fear of failure, particularly once he had gotten on the road to turning his life around.

Michael dives deep into the power of habit, which he illustrates by talking about his meticulous early morning routine involving around 17 activities. Michael contends that each of these activities, when done, is a win, and so “by 6:00 in the morning, I’ve literally won 17 times,” ensuring that his “ability to make great decisions throughout the day are far greater.”

His strong belief in positive rituals—and oatmeal—was the spark that led to the launch of the lifestyle and wellness brand Kreatures of Habit and its plant-based, gluten-free, superfood-laced oatmeal The PrOATagonist.

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Key Highlights

• How does Michael define the word “habit”?

• Michael explains the difference between living in fear and living with fear.

• What can we learn about dealing with pain and hardship from mountain climbers?

• Michael discusses why the habits we build for ourselves aren’t only for our good, but for the good of others, too.

• Why did Michael launch Kreatures of Habit?

Powerful Quotes by Michael

• I am my habits. We are our habits. I define habits as decisions—choices—we get to make that bring us either closer to, or further from, happiness and freedom. [...] Habits will make us or break us.

• What happened a minute ago does not have to impact or predict what’s going to happen right now.

• We have a choice to live in fear or with fear. There’s a massive difference there.

• If we can love the hard and the hurt, we actually become unstoppable.

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Rosie Acosta is a yoga, meditation, and mindfulness teacher, holistic health coach, and the host of the wellness podcast, Radically Loved Radio. She also has just published her first book, You Are Radically Loved: A Healing Journey to Self-Love.

After a tumultuous upbringing, being arrested at a young age, Rosie had to choose between the easy path of self-destruction and the challenging path to radical love, healing, and empowerment.

Bet you can guess which path she chose! Now, Rosie is committed to teaching and practicing guidance by radical love.

In this discussion, Rosie and Chase talk about what it means to radically love yourself and your life, her experience leaving Catholicism to adopt spiritual flexibility, and the inflictions of the mind, body, and spirit that she explores in her book. They also share their personal interpretations of radical love and radical wisdom.

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Key Highlights

• As a teenager, Rosie realized she didn’t want to embody the phrase “ignorance is bliss” anymore. This lead to her to explore different avenues to connect with her higher Self.

• Meditation, yoga, and mindfulness have given Rosie an insatiable curiosity about why it feels so good to meditate, pray, and feel radically loved.

• Rosie says, “The more we simplify our life, the more fulfilling it can be.” Listen in to learn powerful insights from stoicism and minimalism that just might change the way you approach life.

• You Are Radically Loved is broken up into three parts, Mind, Body, and Spirit, because we need all three of those in order to feel unified and radically loved.

Powerful Quotes by Rosie Acosta

How can you bring more awareness to your life to bring you into this state of integration so that you can begin to feel and really feel empowered and embody your life?

[Radical love] is just this rooted, completely untouchable anchor point.

Change is constant, impermanence is inevitable, and the only thing that we can anchor into is radical love.

Episode resources:

• Huberman Lab Podcast on Psychedelics for Treating Mental Disorders

• Get Rosie's book You Are Radically Loved

• Rosie on EFR 172: Intention and Yoga

• Rosie on EFR 023: How to master mindfulness

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Ever since the pandemic set in, our habits have undergone a massive transformation – with no gyms, parks, or other public places open, how does one keep the health and fitness routine going? 

Join Chase and Maxx for another Q&A episode of Ever Forward Radio today as they help you find answers to your most persistent questions around weight loss, fitness, nutrition, and diet amid the pandemic. They talk about home workouts without (most) equipment for beginners and the experienced, finding the time for it amid a 60-hour workweek, diet vs. exercise, and supplement suggestions for gym-goers. They also touch on body dysmorphia and the tips to fight it and share why stressing your body over appearance could only cause you to gain more weight (if you're trying to lose it). 

One of the most valuable takeaways from the episode is Chase's FITT (Frequency, Intensity, Time, and Type) rule that talks about the points to remember when starting your fitness career.

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Key Highlights 

• Nutrition and physical training go hand in hand. Even minimal resistance training can cause injury, like atrophying of muscle mass. The quality of your life and exercise depends on the nutrients you consume.

• Body dysmorphia could cause you to overdo your training and sometimes injure yourself. It is essential that you understand your body and respect it and listen to what it says to you.

• A heightened stress state could create new fat cells in your body. It could mess up your immune health and cause unnecessary weight gain.

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“It (finding time to workout despite a 60-hour workweek) just comes down to prioritization (...).  (You have to ask yourself) where are you spending your time?”

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Life is fragile and it’s taken away from people all the time. This truth is what keeps functional medicine practitioner Dr. Will Cole in a more expansive state of gratitude and compassion every single day. He believes that finding balance and rooting ourselves in the present moment is what will help us thrive in life.

“Reconnecting with your intuition and the planet is the most progressive thing you can do... Making your life the lab, that’s really the art of wellness.”

In this discussion, Will and Chase break down the meaning behind ‘the art of being well’ and the role of intuition in health and wellness. They talk about the relationship between alcohol and sleep, key contributors to modern health and wellness, and how to find balance between self-education and consulting medical professionals. Plus, Will gives insight into how he helps people tap into their intuition and the sacred masterpieces we all are.

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Key Highlights

• Look at the habits or issues your life that you’re holding onto and not willing to let go of, like alcohol, technology, or lack of quality sleep. When you move through these issues, you’ll be able to move past your plateau and experience some level of transformation in your health and wellness.

• Having a mindful, introspective reckoning with what’s serving you and what’s sabotaging you is more impactful than just shaming yourself into cutting out alcohol or deleting social media for a week.

• ‘Biohacking’, or tracking your health and fitness metrics, can give you just enough information to allow you to make more educated and empowered decisions regarding your health. If you’re interested in using a wearable or online health tracker, use it as an awareness tool, not a tool that controls your life. If it’s a source of stress or shame for you or causing disordered eating, take a break from using it and only use it for a small period of time. Your mental and emotional health is more important than metrics.

• Sometimes, your own research and education isn’t enough. If you’re trying all the things and you’re seemingly stuck in your health journey, consult a medical professional for a new perspective.

• Will believes that wellness is a sacred art and you are the masterpiece. Wellness is more intuitive than scientific.

Powerful Quotes by Dr. Will Cole

Avoiding things that make you feel like crap isn’t restrictive, it’s self-respect.

The heart of what I do in functional medicine… is learning the art. That’s part of the reason why I call my podcast “The Art of Being Well”, it’s because it’s this duality of science and art of what I do in functional medicine. The art of it is applying the science in a way that works for them sustainably and learning the rhythm and can’t always be quantified in a lab.

Making your life the lab, that’s really the art of wellness.

Cultivating acts of stillness in our very noisy world is paramount.

Episode resources:

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• Wave Neuro

• Listen to Will’s podcast, The Art of Being Well

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Happy Valentine's Day! Today, Chase and his wife May share some surprising scientific information about what love does to us physiologically beyond just the warm fuzzy feelings we get. Love is linked to increased life-span, decreased chronic illness and disease, lower stress, improved quality of life and so much more. But... that does not only mean when we are in love with someone else. Self-love is just as important!

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Niyc Pidgeon is a life coach and the author of the best-selling book, Now Is Your Chance, which talks about living a happy life by implementing positive psychology principles into your life.

Starting her career as a personal trainer, helping people with their health and fitness goals, Niyc was often approached by her clients as a counsellor for their emotional and mental issues. Those interactions made her realize the intangible link – between the mind and the body, making her want to explore it in depth. Eventually, Niyc studied positive psychology and made it her mission to change the lives of humans using its principles.

In today’s discussion, Niyc and Chase unwind the core principles of positive psychology and how it drives noticeable change in the lives of humans. Niyc explains why positive psychology isn’t only about happy things but instead involves finding the light in situations, however bad they may be. As research states, it’s about finding ‘three positive emotions for every negative emotion’ (the ratio may vary depending on your situation and state, but the principle stays intact). It’s about breaking away from rumination and focussing on the ‘now’.

You’ll learn to differentiate a fixed mindset from a growth mindset and discover the huge importance of cultivating a growth mindset to stay positive. Moreover, you’ll learn the changes that can be brought into your mindset by being non-judgmental, curious, and operating at your edge: all foundations to cultivating positive psychology.

Remember, your emotions are likely contagious; you can always choose to spread a smile.

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Key Highlights

• Positive psychology or building a positive mindset doesn’t involve only the big joys or milestones. Anything small or significant that helps you change your mindset for the better is a step to building a positive mindset.

• Rumination is self-destructive. Worrying about the future is also self-destructive. Positive psychology is about making conscious efforts to break out of the cycle and focussing on the ‘now’.

• Get real, realize what parts of your situations are under your control and what is not. Choose to take a small positive step in the right direction for the thing that you can control – this will help you reclaim your power and energy back, and you’ll be able to navigate life more productively.

• A fixed mindset is detrimental to your happiness and growth as it tends to categorize everything into either success or failure. The growth mindset teaches the importance of embracing the journey and assessing how you’re doing, which is the best way to evaluate if you’re performing your best.

• Emotional contagion is the idea that you can spread good vibes through simple gestures – even just by smiling.

Quotes from Niyc

“What I now teach is how you can have success and have really strong personal systems and personal boundaries to actually provide a scaffolding inside of yourself, inside of your day, so that you can feel awesome, whilst also being able to propel yourself forwards and get the money, success, stages, whatever it is that you want.”

“Get real, what is the fear? What's the worst thing that can happen? [...] What part of this is in your control and what is not in your control? Let go of the part that's not in your control and then choose to take a small positive step in the right direction for the thing that you can control, you literally reclaim all of your power and energy back, and you can start to navigate that in a much more productive way.”

“What we know is that positive emotions open up your thinking. So they broaden and build, they help you build relationships more quickly. They help you solve problems more easily. They help you reach your goals faster, as well, as obviously, it's helping you feel better."

Episode resources

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• Get the book When the Body Says No

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What is REM sleep, why it is important, how much you need, and how to increase it. In today's solo episode Chase breaks down everything you need to know about this crucial component to our sleep cycle.

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Key Highlights

• The sleep stages

• Why is REM sleep important?

• How much REM sleep do you need?

• Effects of lack of REM sleep

• How to get more REM sleep

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Original WHOOP article is below:

REM sleep, which means “rapid eye movement sleep,” is one of the 4 stages of sleep (along with light, deep and wake) that your body’s sleep cycles consist of. It is known as the “mentally restorative” stage of sleep when the brain converts short-term memories into long-term ones. Your brain is very active during REM sleep and it is when the most vivid dreams occur.

THE SLEEP STAGES

Something many people don’t realize is that REM sleep and deep sleep (also referred to as slow wave sleep) are very different stages of sleep. Deep sleep is the “physically restorative” stage when muscles repair themselves and cells regenerate. It follows light sleep and precedes REM sleep in a normal sleep cycle, and unlike REM when your heart and respiratory rate speed up, during deep sleep they both slow down.

WHY IS REM SLEEP IMPORTANT?

REM sleep is the time when new learnings from the day are committed to long-term memory. Beyond the obvious value this has for anyone, it’s significant to athletes from the perspective of technical skills worked on or practiced that day–they are retained during REM sleep, so failing to get the proper amount at night can prevent you from seeing the benefits of your practice that day.

More generally speaking, there’s been research to suggest that when people are deprived of REM sleep they have trouble recollecting things they are taught before falling asleep.

The following physiological changes occur during the REM stage of sleep:

• Eyes move rapidly back and forth behind closed eyelids

• Heart rate and blood pressure rise to levels nearly as high as when you’re awake

• Respiratory rate

• Brain consumes more oxygen and its

• Face and limbs may twitch

Below is a chart representing brain waves measured by an EEG when a person is awake, in REM sleep, and in non-REM sleep:

BRAIN WAVES FROM AN EEG ARE SIMILAR WHEN A PERSON IS AWAKE AND IN REM SLEEP.

Your brain is almost as active in rapid eye movement sleep as when it’s awake, which is why most dreaming happens during this time. As a precautionary measure, part of the brain also sends signals to immobilize your arms and legs in order to prevent you from acting out your dreams (REM sleep behavior disorder). For these reasons, REM sleep is sometimes called paradoxical sleep.

HOW MUCH REM SLEEP DO YOU NEED?

You first enter REM sleep each usually within 90 minutes of falling asleep, and this period of REM only lasts about 10 minutes. On average you’ll go through 3-5 REM cycles per night, with each episode getting longer as the night progresses. The final one may last roughly an hour.

For healthy adults, spending 20-25% of your time asleep in the REM stage is a good goal. If you get 7-8 hours of sleep, around 90 minutes of that should be REM.

The normal amount of REM sleep also declines with age, beginning with infancy (when it may be greater than 50% of total sleep time) and extending all the way through adulthood.

Learn More:

How Much REM Sleep Should You Get a Night?

How Much Time Should You Spend in Each Stage of Sleep?

EFFECTS OF LACK OF REM SLEEP

As mentioned above, not getting enough REM sleep can negatively impact your brain’s ability to learn and create new memories.

Additionally, because the majority of your REM sleep tends to come towards the end of your night in bed (and after deep sleep, which your brain and body prioritize when you need to catch up on sleep), a lack of REM is often a sign of sleep deprivation. Chronic sleep deprivation has been linked to greater risk of obesity, Type 2 Diabetes, dementia, depression, cardiovascular disease and cancer.

There has also been research to show that insufficient REM sleep may cause migraines, and some medical conditions (sleep apnea for example) can have adverse effects on it.

HOW TO GET MORE REM SLEEP

Overall, whatever you can do to improve your sleep habits and behaviors will also help you get more REM sleep. This begins with simply making an effort to spend more time in bed. Here are 45 tips to help you sleep better.

There are also two other things in particular that stand out with how to increase REM sleep. The first is a concept we refer to as sleep consistency–going to bed and waking up at the same time each day (or a sleep schedule as close to that as possible). Your body functions more efficiently when it is on a regular schedule, and this applies to sleep as well. We ran an analysis of sleep data from 25,000 WHOOP members, and the results showed a significant rise in the nightly amount of REM sleep as the percentage of sleep consistency over a 4-day span increased:

BETTER SLEEP CONSISTENCY ALLOWS FOR MORE REM SLEEP.

The second big thing is to stay away from alcohol before bed. When your body is forced to process alcohol during sleep, it has difficulty getting past light sleep and into the deeper stages.

Learn More: Tips to Increase REM Sleep

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With WHOOP, you can monitor your night’s sleep in detail and learn exactly how much time you spend in each stage of sleep. The app also features a Sleep Coach that uses your own circadian rhythm to recommend daily bed and wake times to optimize the quality of your sleep.

WHOOP will let you know how much REM sleep you’re getting and help give you a better understanding of what you can do to get more of it.

THE WHOOP APP DISPLAYS HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPEND IN REM SLEEP EACH NIGHT.

Ryan Hartman is the President and CEO of World View, whose mission is to share a better vision of our planet through capturing stratospheric images of Earth, helping solve our planet's biggest problems, and even launching humans from the world's wonders to the edge of space.

They exist to inspire, create, and explore new perspectives while rediscovering Earth to create a radically improved future. What does that mean? It means shifting our behaviors, changing how we treat our planet, and forming a community that advocates for Earth.

In this discussion, Ryan and Chase explore the intersection of technology and purpose by diving deep into the shocking reality of space travel and tourism in 2022 and beyond. Ryan explains to us how World View space tourism works, what inspired him to create these innovative travel experiences, and how World View is prioritizing sustainability and financial accessibility.

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Key Highlights

• World View created a journey consisting of 5 days of immersive experiences, in addition to space flight, for people to explore Earth and develop a newfound respect and enlightened view of our planet.

• Ryan believes that the immersive experience of stratospheric ballooning will inspire others to shift their current perspectives of the world and change the way they treat planet Earth.

• Beyond the adventurous thrill of space flight, Ryan believes there will be people who are called to participate in World View experiences.

• Although a ticket for the space tourism experience comes at a price of $50,000, Ryan and World View are continuously working to make their flights more accessible for people all around the globe. They even offer financing for flights, which is essentially unheard of!

• Ryan talks about the sustainability of World View’s space travel program, from recycling and repurposing their stratospheric balloons to offsetting their carbon footprint. They’ve committed to a 100-year plan of managing their carbon footprint, waste, and the lifespan of the materials they use.

Powerful Quotes by Ryan Hartman

What is a new perspective? It embodies inspiring people, it embodies exploring, it embodies finding something that is unique so that we can contribute to a radically improved future.

One day, you can be standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon just seeing how massive it is. And the next day, ascending to the very edge of space, to the very edge of Earth’s atmosphere and beyond, and see how small it is. That creates an opportunity to be able to feel something different, unique, and have an emotional response to that.

Perspective shift, I believe, happens when you create an environment where there’s familiarity, something you recognize, coupled with something completely new that you don’t yet completely understand.

We’re never done thinking about how might we be able to run our business… and what decisions do we need to make along the way to find a way to have a positive impact.

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Grief increases inflammation, which can worsen health problems you already have and cause new ones. It batters the immune system, leaving you depleted and vulnerable to infection. The heartbreak of grief can increase blood pressure and the risk of blood clots. Who knew an emotional response to a major life event had such physical consequences?

If you’re new here, the phrase and mantra “ever forward” came from his father. His father’s death left such a significant and traumatic imprint on Chase’s heart, mind, and really his entire life, so much so that it became his reason for living.

In this discussion, Chase sheds light on his nearly two-decade long battle with grief and bereavement, sharing his personal story of the very significant trauma he has experienced. He also incorporates what science has to say about the relationship between grief and our physical and mental states. Chase then shares a few things he’s done to bring a sense of awareness to his grief and work through it.

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Key Highlights

• What is grief? How can it affect mental health? Grief is primarily an emotional reaction to the loss of a loved one or an attachment figure through death. Prolonged, untreated grief may cause long-term suffering and painful mental health issues.

• Grief is one of the most unique experiences of our lives and it affects us all differently. Some people process it and can move through it quickly, but for others (including Chase), it can take many challenging years. Take this as permission to grieve for as long as you need to. You’re not alone!

• Grief has a connection to our mind, body, and soul. Not attempting to work through it is not serving any part of us. If we prioritize it and make it a part of our wellness journey, it can be a huge learning and healing experience.

• Bereavement is a severe stressor that typically incites symptoms of acute grief that commonly progresses to a restored life. Normally, grief doesn’t need clinical intervention. However, sometimes acute grief can become a chronic, debilitating condition called complicated grief. The stress caused by bereavement can increase the likelihood of onset or worsening of other physical or mental disorders. Hence, some bereaved people need to be diagnosed and treated. (Depress Anxiety Article)

• As a result of suppressing his grief and not fully addressing it, Chase began to have intense panic attacks. Through the work he’s done to process his father’s death, he can now openly talk about his experience and feel free.

• Some things that have helped Chase along his grief journey: Seeking help and support from both professionals and loved ones, focusing on adding micronutrients and supplements into his daily diet, embracing psychedelic therapies, and intentional uses of psilocybin.

Powerful Quotes by Chase Chewning

The obvious conclusion of underperforming, of suffering, and [under]functioning in areas of our life might make sense, but don’t leave out the opposite. Don’t leave out over-functioning and striving for too much all the time because that, in a way, is what we’re talking about here of how complicated grief could be showing up in your life.

I had a very intense psilocybin journey at home one day and I felt this energy, this weight, this force just leave my hips and my lower body. No bullshit, I go in the next day or like two days later to the gym and with such ease and mobility… I was pulling weight with such ease and quickness and form that was blowing my mind because I no longer had that sensation, that feeling in my hips of these past traumas. It was gone.  

Episode resources:

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• BetterHelp

• Field Trip Health

• The Body Keeps the Score

• Bereavement and complicated grief

• Complicated grief

• Complicated grief and related bereavement issues for DSMR-5 

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Kimberly Snyder is a renowned nutritionist, spiritual teacher, holistic wellness expert, NYT best-selling author, and Founder of the holistic lifestyle brand, Solluna. 

Kimberly’s newest book, You Are More Than You Think You Are, teaches you to connect with yourself and work with your own energy to revise your belief system and open the doors to true inspiration and vitality.

In this discussion, Kimberly and Chase talk about living life from the true self instead of the ego and how that benefits your entire life and helps you reach your potential. She also shares her thoughts on the real meaning of enlightenment and shares a simple practice you can do to cultivate the space needed to nourish yourself and your ideas.

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Key Highlights

• There are two parts of us, the ego and the true self. Through practices and techniques, we can learn to shift from identifying with the ego (where fear and unworthiness lives) to the true self. This allows us to tap into our best ideas, true abundance, confidence, and vitality. 

• “You are more than you think you are.” You are beyond the labels and numbers you identify with. Labels are rooted in the ego and you are more infinite than that.

• Start to live love as a verb, not a noun. Live as though love is a living energy in your life. How? By activating love. What does that look like? Spreading kindness, being grateful, cuddling your loved ones, saying nice things to people, and sending love to strangers. Once you do that, your whole vibration changes!

• Kimberly sheds light on her non-linear life path, her rock bottom, the death of her mother, and the role of scripture, spiritual practices, and trust in her life.

Powerful Quotes by Kimberly Snyder

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to improve ourselves or to have financial abundance or to be fit, but the issue is when we put our worth and our identity in that. 

We don’t get love from anything outside. What happens is that certain people and certain situations and certain things can cause the love inside of you to light up. You don’t get it, it’s inside of you. 

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The Chewning brothers are back and here to answer your questions around how to become more productive, what are time management habits they have that help them get their most important work done, what books they have read that help their mindset and businesses, as well as how to overcome failure, their thoughts on is a college degree worth the time and money and so much more.

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May Yazdi is a nurse practitioner, holistic health coach, and host of the May’s Anatomy Podcast. More importantly, May is the life-long partner and wife of Chase. Together, they’ve been building a spiritually grounded partnership and are still exploring that to this day.

What does it mean to have a spiritual component to your relationship? How do I develop spirituality in my relationship? What’s the difference between spirituality and religion? How do you have a healthy relationship with someone who’s beliefs are different than your own? These are all powerful questions Chase and May reflect upon in this episode.

In the last few years, Chase has become more spiritual, realizing that his spiritual Self has always been with him. Despite being grown up in the Southern Baptist Church, he ponders the reason why he hasn’t made his own spirituality as much of a priority as he wants it to be. Through his spiritual exploration, Chase and May have been able to deepen their connection on a whole new level.

In this discussion, May and Chase talk about the spiritual component of relationships and marriage. They share their intimate thoughts on how to nurture your own spirituality while supporting the spiritual growth of your partner, and thus, the vitality and longevity of your partnership.

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Key Highlights

• Spirituality means something different to each person. To May, spirituality is an innate knowing within herself that she is a reflection of God, of the Universe, of mankind, and of the multiverse. 

• Spirituality and religion are very different and they aren’t always paired together. Religion is a system of faith or worship, but spirituality is YOU. It’s something unique and personal to you.

• Although May isn’t outwardly spiritual, spirituality is everything when it comes to her health and wellness, so it’s also a huge part of the health and wellness of her relationships.

• A fundamental truth of spirituality is that you must accept every person’s version of spirituality as their own. You grow spiritually when you accept others as they are. Chase and May believe that’s an extremely important part of a healthy marriage, especially if you come from different faiths.

• Individual investigation is essential before you investigate spirituality as a couple. What are your beliefs? Where do you stand? Then, go from there… Create an environment that is conducive for both of your spiritual Selves to come out and be present. Be still together and see what comes up!

Powerful Quotes by May Yazdi

If you are in a partnership, or even just on your own kind of solo, self-love healing journey, diving into the spiritual component will just give you boundless possibilities of where you can go.

That’s what’s so important to me in a partner, is that your experience is valid, whatever it is. The way you view the world is valid. Who am I to tell you that it’s not? And I want that in return.

I know in my literal soul, so strongly, that where I am going to be after I pass on from this world, you’re going to be there, too. And maybe, in this world, you think it’s something different and it looks different and you call it something different, but like, I’ll see you there.

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