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Apr 1, 2021

EFR 457: Gamify Your Life Through The Five Core Success Habits with William Moore

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William is the founder of Moore Momentum. His story of success started in 2007 during the real estate market crash. He created a company called Doorstep Delivery- a restaurant delivery service and became the largest food delivery service in the southeast and had 19 branches. A year and a half later, Doorstep Delivery was bought for its recognizable success.

From his experience, William decided to share his knowledge of success in unity and growth and built a new company called Moore Momentum, a professional training and coaching service to help you become the best version of yourself. 

Moore Momentum's mission is to "create a movement of change that shifts the mindset of the world toward unity and growth."

In this episode, William shares five core areas of life if done properly will completely level-up your success, increase productivity, regulate the flow of energy by combining the latest in science and technology, and universal principles to gamify your life!

 

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Key Highlights

  • Why are the 5 cores important?

  • Why is connecting to your why more effective than for?

  • Keep understanding, keep reading, and keep studying.

  • The role of mindset, goal setting, and accountability.

  • Why your morning routine matters.

 

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Interview transcript

Chase [06:24]

All right, lights, camera, action there we go. Will Moore welcome to Ever Forward Radio man coming from one of my favorite places in the US, Chicago and we're having a very similar weather day so while we're in good company man. Welcome.

Will [06:35]

Thank you, great to be here.

Chase [06:37]

What’s is going on the most in your world? Maybe go back just two years to like this big transition you've had in your life. What were you doing? How did you find yourself up here? What are you doing today?

Will [07:01]

I spent the last 10 years or so building a business. My story of success started in 2007 during the real estate market crash. I saw the need of food delivery service since it the market was not saturated and many people needed it. I created a company called Doorstep Delivery- a restaurant delivery service and became the largest food delivery service in the southeast and had 19 branches. A year and a half later, Doorstep Delivery was bought for its recognizable success.

Chase [10:01]

So, what's it like standing at the bottom of this tower and staring at something that doesn't exist yet, but it's clear as day in your mind? 

Will [10:21]

If you can kind of step back and sort of say, okay, what does the world need, right? People always have ideas. It’s only a matter if they make their ideas come to life or give out excuses. Your success depends if you actually do it or doubt yourself

Chase [11:05]

Not an ounce of doubt. Absolutely.

Will: [11:08]

You'll never succeed because there's so many bitch slaps. People can try to steal your business too. In the first couple of years, we weren’t very profitable. I think it’s pretty typical for new businesses. Some businesses die but fortunately, we got some momentum.

We started partnering with some bigger restaurants, like, Chili’s. Initially, we were the one’s going to restaurants asking if they want to partner with us. They would always decline or if they do accept, it took a lot of convincing. But by the end, it was kind of neat they were all kind of begging us to be partnered with them, because they saw it as profit. They were making money.

And I was like, shit, I've been working on this thing for 25 years or so this this kind of book, this personal journey of all the things that I've learned along the way.

I was suicidal when I was in college. I had a bit of a religion. I straight up was your typical fixed victim and I serendipitously was introduced to this book by a professor who I really admired at the time and he just kind of casually mentioned it in one of his lectures, and I like wrote it down and went right to the library after and luckily, they had it had they not had it, I wonder how my life would have turned out.

Chase [13:14] 

What was the book?

Will [13:15]

Butterfly Effect, How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. This book made me realize that there's a different way to look at the universe to look at the world. There's these universal principles that I have not been taking advantage of. I am going to figure out all of them and I made it my life's mission to basically reinvent myself and figure out what it means to be happy. There is no short-cut elixir too.

Chase [13:48]

Three easy installments for sure. 

Will [13:49]

Right? It doesn't, it doesn't work that way. I started figuring things out over time using myself as a human science experiment- what worked, what didn't, what laws of the universe? 

I honed in on these main areas of life and these key principles. Develop habits to make me happy and get to where I wanted to be. And so, 25 years later, I did that with my career, my finances, I ended up dividing these into five different cores. That didn't come until way later I just knew like, my physical health is important. My relationships are important, my mind sets important, my emotional health is important. My career and finances are important.

And these are the five cores then I was kind of working on all of them. I got rid of my failure habits and replaced them with success habits; and so, I can keep building momentum to combine them all to form my overall happiness. 

Chase: [15:25]

Life is multifaceted. Our goals are multifaceted. Yes, when we focus on one thing, we can perform well, and we can get better at it, we can excel at it, but it is leaving a lot of other areas neglected, or it is leaving a lot of other room, leaving a lot on the table, basically a lot of room for improvement, all these other things when we become out of whack.

It all comes down to habits. Either we push ourselves closer towards the goal, or decide what is the goal that we want.  Sometimes, just to build positive momentum and figure things out along the way. 

So, when reading this book and applying some of these things, I'm curious, was it as straightforward for you as just instilling new habits? Were you realizing a lot of the habits that you had needed to go? Was it subtraction or addition? Or a little bit of the combination of both? 

Will [16:40]

It's a great question. Now, I like helping people shine a big spotlight on their lives. It wasn't until I read Atomic Habits, by James Clear that it really hit me like a ton of bricks and I'm like, wow, what I'm doing is the natural extension. 

Chase [17:24]

That one is great, I got about three copies up over here. Anytime anybody rolls through the office, they haven't read it, I give them one. It's amazing.

Will [17:30]

I mean, right? He talks about whether you're using this physical, relationships, emotional parts- how they work, connecting to your whys and why it’s important as human beings to understand that because it’s got to be a deep thing that syncs way all up in there in your body and your soul that goes.

Chase [18:29]

I always go back to the movie Inception; if anything is to stick and to be inherent to be worthwhile it has to be from our own design. 

Will [18:40]

That’s exactly right. Versus willpower, which is complete BS and doesn't work where you go- a superficial level. You haven't connected, like you said on that Inception level.

These different areas, these five cores, they cover everything. This is what life is about: these five cores, all combined to form your overall momentum, happiness, growing, and stopping your failure habits and replacing them with success habits to make sure you're becoming bigger, better, faster, stronger along the way.

It’s been a 25-year journey to figure it all out but, what I have realized is that it's these habits, but they've got to be based on these principles.

I've read 1000s of self-help books, been to seminars you name it, they all kind of have the same things in different ways and like I said, it's been my goal to use these principles. 

Will [20:52]

It fits perfectly. I need to use that same science and technology, what we know about habits, what we know about dopamine hits, why we do things, and use that to level up not just on a screen and get a shallow victory of a like or a, you know, you're playing a game and you get you know, gold coins but to level up in real life. That's what I've dedicated my life to.

Chase AD [21:18]

Hey, what's going on my friend, I want to take a quick second and pause from this interview with William Moore. First of all, just take a pause and just let it all sink in everything that Will has been talking about up to this point, just let it sink in for a second. I don't want this to be just another podcast that you listen to and have just running in the background and maybe you pick up a few things here and there but just really take a pause right now and reflect back on what you've heard so far, let it sink in.

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Alright, let's go and jump back into today's conversation with William Moore.

Chase [26:30]

I want to dive into these five core principles and there's one in particular, I want to kick off with relationships. I really think that is the most profound one. I think they're all important, right? All these other areas in our life are important, but relationships are instrumental. 

You had this kind of epiphany, right? This realization that your life needed to change. You said that you wanted to change. How did you know the next steps to take? Because that can be that can be crippling. 

Will [27:32]

I didn’t is the answer. But I made it my mission to use myself as a human science experiment and to test start testing all these things. All I knew is I needed to keep reading and I needed to keep studying, keep understanding, keep learning.

Chase [28:50]

Yeah, right. Absolutely. Man, I love your response to that well said for sure. So then let's dive into these five core areas and we've got mindset, career and finances, relationships. 

I would love to start off with first physical health and emotional health and giving back so please indulge me. Why did relationships make your top five and what do you mean by that? Why is it such a core area?

Will [29:14]

Before we get into relationships, I have to bring up mindset because mindset is the surface. Your mindset is the glue that holds the rest of the course together and getting your mind working for instead of against you, and it makes all the other cores incrementally easier to build momentum.

Chase [29:37]

So, you kind of have a hierarchy for these a little bit?

Will [29:40]

They're all equal but mindset is the one that you need to make sure. I've got strengths just like everybody else, I've got weaknesses. I'm going to figure out how to outsource and work around those weaknesses, I'm going to focus on my strengths, I'm gonna learn what I'm passionate about, I'm going to set goals and when I fail, I'm going to fail forward.

I'm going to figure out what it was that didn't work and how to pivot so that every step of the way, I'm becoming bigger, better, faster, stronger, and that ends up applying to all your areas, including relationships, because, if you can look start looking at life that way, and that doesn't happen overnight and there's techniques.

One of the habits is negative self-talk, as long as you do that continually, that's the main thing that you're filling your brain with, you're never gonna be able to get to what I just said.

And so, with relationships, it's the same thing in terms if you want to build momentum and create these relationships. It's in our nature to have these human connections and interactions and if you're not doing that, you're going to be F’d. 

In the relationship core, I actually break it into four different areas, I have your colleagues and acquaintances, people you may be just met, family, colleges and friends, and your significant other. Are you married or single? 

Chase [33:16]

I'm married. Yeah, we've been together almost eight years. 

Will [34:10]

For instance, my wife and I have these agreements, right? We come we're two different people, just like every couple is we come from different backgrounds. We're not the same. I am a man. She's a woman, we, you know, they're our brains do not work exactly the same. And we, we forget that sometimes. And we get frustrated with the other person and we make assumptions, like, why are they doing this? Why are they doing that? And that just starts to chip away at the fabric.

Whereas it's like, okay, look, here's where you're coming from. Let's make it clear. Here's where we tend to have issues, right? 

Raising our kids, we do have some disagreements but we compromise even though we don't see it exactly the same how do we meet in the middle and what's best for our sons? And that's how we're going to do it.

Chase [35:13]

Present this unified front for sure. So, mindset first, that's definitely the lens we want to look through when we're starting all of these core values, core beliefs, these pillars, if you will, for the work that you talk about.

And then kind of you started talking about the relationship aspect, whether it's a significant other family member, I would even say that, what about the one with ourselves? How do you go about working on the relationship with yourself? Because I think that's probably the most important one that takes the most amount of work. 

Will [36:02]

So that and that's that that's your mindset. I mean, it is the most important and that's why I have people start with your mindset. Your mindset is your relationship with yourself. It's how you view the world. It's your confidence, it's your attitude. It's your perspective, literally on how the world is, is those a world suck, and it's out to get you are you a fixed victim, or a growth owner?

And if you have a bad relationship with yourself, you're going to potentially build that negative momentum hurting yourself. Like you'll get overwhelmed like this is too hard, you got to do it very slowly and surely, which is what I help with.

Chase [37:11]

It is possible to become overwhelmed and even more stressed out. Our personal development, self-help and growth, as we open our minds up to the possibility of what we want and we realize that all of this is possible just takes incremental work and consistent work.

Will: [38:54]

When you start to get your mind working for you, instead of against you it reduces the friction. Maybe before you didn't have the confidence, you didn't have the foresight - but then once you start to improve your mindset it's like just like same with physical health and same with your emotional health like it's like all of a sudden, you will say: I can do that!

Here’s my goal. This is what I want to do. This is my purpose.

You can get your brains working for you, and create ways that you never saw before and how to get there right at the end. You got to set goals. I'm a huge, huge, huge goal guy.

In fact, that they don't teach that mainstream in schools is shame on you. I'm trying to I'm trying to fix the broken system and the education.

Will [40:43]

We’ve got to start teaching things like goals and emotional health and how to get along with others, and how to balance your checkbook in school.

These five core areas, these habits, so by the time you get to young adulthood, you're not suicidal.

Believe it or not, even with all this tech, and everything that's happened, we're becoming less happy as a society. The world of happiness has been on a downward trajectory. 

For many years, teen suicide, especially for girls is at an all-time high and it's gone up every single year. Social media comparing themselves so it's like, we got to use this stuff responsibly. And so that's my whole mission. That's my whole goal in life that keeps me going every single day, just like with doorstep delivery, where I said, I know this is it. This is this is this is where the world is heading. 

How do I use the same science and technology to get people addicted to leveling up? Not just on screen, but in real life.

Chase [41:49]

That’s such a great idea, man. How do we get how do we introduce that kind of gamification concept that we've seen work time and time again, for things like video games, cell phone games, social media platforms?

How do we kind of get people conditioned to want to show up and stay present the same way they do for these other things, but in a way that is going to be a positive feedback loop?

Something that is going to get them addicted to themselves really in a non-egotistical way?

Will [42:20] 

Gamifying it up. My app is going to be the first product and you're a rocket ship. And you've got these five core areas of your life are the thrusters of your engine, and to not fly off course and end up where you don't want or to crash land. You got to make sure that you're balancing these cores, you're continually building momentum in each to get off the ground, then to get to the moon then to the first planet and the next galaxy than the next solar system along the way. You're meeting aliens. You are navigating through asteroid field.

Chase [43:39]

Is this co developed with Neil deGrasse Tyson by chance?

Will [43:47]

The whole point is it's I've been working on this for the last three years this app.

I had this idea it started with I literally back when I was telling you in college when I was suicidal, one of the first books I read, talked about Benjamin Franklin's 13 virtues. 

I'm calling them habits, the things that you want to change in your life. I would write a list and forced myself writing it every day. What did I do today? Did I do this, this thing that I know that is good for me this habit that I'm working on? Or did I not? And I would put either a checkmark or an x.

Slowly but surely, that started shining this big spotlight and making me aware of the things that were really hurting me causing that negative momentum so to speak. I started becoming aware.

I've got my five cores, and within each core, I've got the habits that I'm working on and improve each day on them. 

Chase [46:14]

How much weight do you put on accountability for the ability for change to happen when it comes to our habits? 

Will [46:23]

Huge. To me, it's all about systems in life systems, systems. Like you read every success book I've ever read every successful person and I use success in quotes. By the way, because most people think success is just money and finances, power and fame; but to me, it's living a true success is live in the five-core systems of life.

These people, they've developed a system that works for them and I wanted to figure out was, how can I make kind of a universal system that works for anybody? 

Chase [48:07]

I want to dive into a couple of the key concepts you talked about here and that's emotional health and giving back. Why did you put those two together? And do you think they are kind of dependent on each other in order for us to have that that level completed here in these core values? 

Will [48:23]

The honest answer is I put those two together, they do tie together but it was more I wanted to have five cores instead of six. That is actually to be to be brutally honest five cores- to me it's simpler.

Emotional health is when you are you aware of the things that are hurting your mind every day in terms of like stress? Are you aware of the things that bring true joy and happiness to your life? Like what are your passions?

Being aware of these things and making sure that you're proactively incorporating them every single day into your life so that you're reducing the stress.

Chase [50:58]

What is maybe one habit you're working on right now that you're like, I'm making it better or maintaining it like what is one key habit you have in your level of awareness right now that is, like the one you're working on the most?

Will [51:13]

This is part of my morning routine, which by the way, morning routines are huge terms of like staying on track, things that are actually going to help burst you into the day and have you going in with a smile and that energy versus another day.

One example just of that, like I used to read the news, and I start getting sucked into politics. And I would literally I would soon as I would wake up, I would open it up. And I would be in a bad mood within two minutes. 

Chase [51:34]

You're bombarded with everybody else's stressors and worries. Might be some good news in there to but it's a wave of noise that, like you need to go into intentionally I believe, right? 

Will [51:57]

That’s exactly right. And so, I caught that. With all this awareness and holding myself accountable, I realize this news doesn't fit in with my happiness. And so, I replaced it with good, and positive news.

I have this app called Flipboard, you can even do it on your Apple news feed as well- I can select the types of articles and things that I want to see. So, wellness, personal development, video games, entertainment, like whatever you're interested in that is happy and uplifting, that's all I'll see, right?

I got 10 habits that I'm currently working on posture, one of them but the top one is shorten, simplify and make things more succinct. 

Chase [53:26]

Got to get that hook, right. Is that with a new book? Is it hooked? I forgot the guy's name. 

Will [53:30]

Hooked by Nir Eyal, great book. 

Chase [53:40]

Yeah, exactly.

Well, William, it's been great having you on the show here. I can't wait for my audience to continue to dive into what you're doing over there. The Moore Momentum, everything you're doing and the change in the impact and connecting the dots for other people so that they can find other ways other walks of life, to learn from to pull from and to instill these habits and create their own system for success.

Will [54:00]

Right on brother! I really appreciate you having me on. Thanks for letting me ramble. 

Chase [54:04] 

No worries, you're in good company. Podcasts are great for that, it’s a long format content for a reason. But I do you have one final question. I'm curious, what does that mean to you, William? How would you say you live a life ever forward? 

Will [54:04]

Well, I think our messages couldn't align better. I mean Moore Momentum. M-O-O-R-E is my last name, Momentum. That's my website. That's my brand. That’s everything I'm doing.

It's about building momentum. Every single day, like we talked earlier and your podcast about not getting complacent, not resting on your laurels, but instead saying this is where I want to be in each of my areas, taking little incremental steps every single day using what I call the equation of life, which is your belief system.

So as long as you start to change, my belief system ties to your mindset as you start to change that. And then you start to take different actions than you used to those actions, then aren't going to happen right away, but the time will do its thing. That's who you're going to become. And so, it's building a little bit of momentum every single day moving forward, as you would say, every single day. 

Chase [55:29]

I love it, man, there's never a right or wrong answer. There's just your answer. I appreciate your insight on that. 

Will [55:35]

Right on.

Chase [55:36]

If you could send somebody listening, watching right now, somewhere, where are they going? Where can they connect with you online? What's going on? 

Will [55:48]

So, mooremomentum.com. I have a life evaluator quiz where you can actually see where you stand in each of these five core areas of your life.

It's like you're saying being aware of figuring it out is the first step- the quiz will help you get there.

Then on our Instagram page @5corelife. We have all sorts of fun viral videos, positive news, fun stuff where humans are doing good things exemplifying the five-core life.

I also have my own podcast and I do little interviews and there's little snippets of that.

Chase [56:55]

Amazing man, it definitely great place to get lost scrolling for a little bit for sure.

William, thank you so much. Appreciate you. 

Will [57:03]

Appreciate it, brother. Thank you so much.

Adam Lowry is an entrepreneur and one of the four co-founders of Sugarbreak, launched last September 2, 2020 as the first all-natural, complete solution to help reduce sugar consumption and promote healthy blood sugar management. Sugarbreak, which raised $3 million in seed funding, offers pills and tongue strips to reduce sugar cravings. A suite of products backed by science was the goal. The brand itself was built on three pillars: all-natural, proven, and measurability.

Sugarbreak’s marquee product is Resist, a dissolvable minty breath strip that blocks your taste buds from tasting anything sweet for about 45 minutes, curbing sugar cravings on the spot. Its key ingredient is gymnema sylvestre which makes sugar taste like “sand on your tongue”. In other words, “it interrupts your ability to enjoy sweets” by “break[ing] that connection between your brain and the reward of sugar.”

Its other two products are Stabilize, a pre-meal capsule which helps block carbs and sugars and stabilizes post-meal sugar spikes and crashes, and Reduce, which supports consistently healthy A1c and blood glucose levels.

The company was founded to support diabetics and prediabetics through a clinically-tested supplement line that supports healthy blood sugar levels. However, for the consumer who has no medical need to reduce their sugar intake and simply wants to stay healthy, Sugarbreak’s products are “a convenient way of having on-demand willpower”.

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Key Highlights

  • What problem is Sugarbreak looking to solve, exactly?

  • Adam explains how, aside from direct consumers, Sugarbreak is also looking to create products that primary care providers and other healthcare professionals can offer to their own patients.

  • What’s on the horizon for Sugarbreak?

Powerful Quotes by Adam Lowry

Sugarbreak was founded to give people a convenient way of having on-demand willpower.

Part of what we’re doing with Sugarbreak is to try to create a relationship with consumers that is built around enablement and freedom and helps people live with whatever condition they’ve got in a way that’s more pleasant.

If we can create a little bit of freedom, whether it’s reducing sugar consumption on the front end or helping people maintain healthy blood sugar levels over time on the back end, then we’re doing something good.


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Sean Dollinger is the founder of Vancouver-based PlantX, an online one-stop shop for all things plant-based, including meal delivery. The ultimate goal of the platform “is to educate people on the benefits of a plant-based lifestyle, eliminating the barriers to entry for everyone.”

He has been involved in the ecommerce space for over two decades, and has a growing portfolio that includes more than 15 companies.

Having been overweight growing up, Sean discovered the power of eating a plant-based diet ten years prior, which helped him lose 60 pounds of bodyweight. It was a transformation that not only completely changed his body, but his mind as well. Sean was inspired to create a platform to share what he had learned over the past decade and it developed into what is today PlantX.

Sean goes on to share how he found success as a serial entrepreneur, from why he sleeps only four hours a night, to how he scaled PlantX from $6 million to $1.5 billion in a year-and-a-half, to how he spots opportunity in times of crisis.

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Key Highlights

  • Why did Sean decide to start a business around plant-based products and services?

  • Is a plant-based diet something that people can realistically integrate into their lifestyle?

  • Why Sean feels best sleeping for only four hours a night.

  • How do you find and capitalize on an opportunity amid crisis?

Powerful Quotes by Sean

At the end of the day, PlantX’s job is to give selection and choice. We’re not here to make that decision for individuals. We’re here to make sure everything fits into the plant-based lifestyle. We like to give people freedom of choice.

What I always remind people is to think back to why they started the business. Why did you think it was such a good idea? Why did you take that leap of faith? Why did you make that investment in yourself to do it? Then keep going. [...] At the end of the day, what you’ve taken a chance on could be exactly what you’re looking for.

I believe that if you put that positive energy out there, you work extremely hard, and your dedication is towards making the Earth a better place, I always believe that opportunities will present themselves.


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Eliot Marshall is a martial artist, business owner, podcaster, bestselling author, and a self-proclaimed “ex-UFC fighter turned motivational speaker”.

Eliot points to change as the defining characteristic of his life and career. He looks at each new day as an opportunity for growth, and believes fully that he is a better man today than he was at any other point, regardless of past successes. In fact, even with a prolific run in MMA behind him, Eliot admits that “my UFC career was literally just me trying to hide all these insecurities I have.”

Today, instead of running away from the coward within, Eliot embraces that side. He made it a point to learn all about his fear, and to coexist with that fear. He goes on to speak about how love from those he cared about the most yanked him out of the literal death spiral of negative self-talk that enslaved him early on.

Eliot explains how anybody can reverse engineer their ideal life in order to start taking steps toward it. This includes going through the three Is that you need to write down to start calibrating your mindset for growth: your I ams, your I cans, and your I wills.

 

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Key Highlights

  • Eliot explains how and why he used his career as a professional fighter to hide the coward inside of him.

  • How was Eliot able to surround himself with a great community of people that he could trust in his darkest hours?

  • How good can our life become just by changing our mindset?

  • Eliot may no longer be in the UFC, but he is clearly still a fighter. He shares what he is fighting for today.

 

Powerful Quotes by Eliot Marshall

As your coach, I don’t want to see “perfect”. I want to see the mess. I want to see you when it all falls apart. I want to see as ugly and as bad as it gets. Once I see that, we get to plug the holes. I need to see what you’re going to do when the shit really hits the fan because you can’t hide who you are when that cage door closes.

There’s a coward in all of us. If you won’t say hi to him, then he comes out during really inopportune times. He comes to say hello. But if I say hello to him every day, knowing that he’s part of me, then he can come hang out, but he doesn’t get to mess things up.

Living by your values is not easy. It’s not comfortable. It’s not fun. There’s no fun about it. But if you say who you say you are, then you do it.

I never want to equalize outcomes; but I want to equalize the opportunity for every single human being that walks on this Earth to be able to find, discover, and harness their power.

 

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Ashley Stahl is a counterterrorism professional turned highly sought-after career coach, TEDx speaker, Forbes blogger, podcaster, and author. In January 2021, she published her first book, You Turn: Get Unstuck, Discover Your Direction, and Design Your Dream Career.

She illustrates her approach to getting “unstuck” as traveling from one lilypad to another. The first lilypad is where most people start out: They have a dream (or at least the outline of one) but are too afraid to take the next step thanks to the myriad of what-ifs plaguing their mind.

Getting over to the second lilypad is all about creating a “river channel” by figuring out your unique gift and learning how to harness your primary skillset. It’s about acknowledging that the key to getting unstuck in your career is to not do what you love, but to do what you are.

The third and final lilypad is “a level of dharma” achieved only after consistently putting that skillset into action. Ashley explains that “when you’re vibing in the current of your gifts, what happens is, on the periphery, people start noticing where you’re talented.” When you work only where you thrive, and you own your unique gift, opportunities naturally arise and your career creates itself.

Ashley goes on to share how to get clarity on your best career fit, uncovering your identity, nipping resentment at work in the bud and finding your purpose, and the biggest myths that keep you stuck in your career.

Follow Ashley @ashleystahl

Follow Chase @chase_chewning 

Key Highlights

  • Ashley explains how to get unstuck in life by hopping from the first lilypad to the second and to the third. She addresses the many challenges that everyone will encounter on their personal journey along the way.

  • What did Ashley carry over from her previous career in intelligence into her current work as a coach?

  • Ashley gives her thoughts on identity and why the search for who you truly are can be freeing or limiting depending on how you approach it.

  • How do you address burnout and regain a sense of purpose?

Powerful Quotes by Ashley

The ultimate message of my book is: Don’t do what you love. Do what you are.

Instead of hiring a bunch of life coaches, let life be your coach. [...] When you see your career as this vehicle of experimentation, as a vehicle of self-expression, what happens is you start saying “yes” to opportunities that are in the vein of where you’re gifted, and you start getting opportunities to really do something on a higher level.

Purpose moves. Who you are, moves. We’re not a static organism. I think it’s so important to give yourself permission to change. You’re allowed to change your mind. You’re allowed to like something different. People don’t give themselves that because there is such a strong egoic desire to maintain an identity.

Buying into identities can free you as much as it can limit you.

Resentment is a sign of burnout. [...] Anytime you have resentment, what you really have is poor boundaries. Resentment is just feedback that you’ve trespassed on your own boundaries.

A lot of people who are low energy are actually just low on purpose.

The pain of acceptance is never as bad as the slow-burn, gnawing pain of denial.

You really can’t move forward until you have awareness of what’s true.

 

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Dr. Anthony Balduzzi is a naturopathic doctor, national champion bodybuilder, and founder of the Fit Father Project and Fit Mother Project—online health and fitness communities aimed at empowering busy parents to get healthy, lose weight, and build muscle through practical nutrition and exercise plans.

Seeing his father suffer through sickness and pass away at the age of 42 imprinted in young Anthony’s mind that life is both finite and fragile. Being faced with mortality so early on, no less through a parent, catapulted him into the world of health and fitness. He realized, as he went down this path, that it all comes down to “how we manage our nutrition, our sleep, our movement, and our mindset.”

The tragic, early experience of losing his dad planted a seed within Anthony to help others like his father who were “just busy and caught in the throes of managing everything” at the expense of their healthy routines. “Health,” he continues, “is often put on the backburner when we have bills and responsibilities, and I saw that happening to so many people.”

To this end, Dr. Balduzzi created the Fit Father Project alongside the Fit Mother Project, programs that simplify—and make sustainable—exercise and nutrition for everyday busy parents.

Follow Dr. Balduzzi @fitfatherproject

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Key Highlights

  • Dr. Balduzzi’s father passed away at the young age of 42. He explains how this tragic period of his life served as the catalyst that began his journey into the world of health and wellness.

  • In a nutshell, what do busy people need to know about taking care of themselves for the long haul?

  • How do we ensure our children’s success through epigenetics?

  • Community is immunity. When we have deep, meaningful connections with other human beings, how do those connections impact us, chemically and physiologically?

Powerful Quotes by Dr. Anthony Balduzzi

There are a lot of things in life that we can’t control. Yet at the same time it was a very empowering experience. After going through the grieving of losing my dad, I realized that I was the man of the house, and that I was able to make choices about how to move forward and how I was going to represent for my mom and my little brother.

This body of ours is intimately connected to the rhythms of the planet, through our circadian rhythm—and how that affects all of the cascades of hormones—and how these different cycles happen in the body.

When you look at longevity for the human mechanism, the longest-living people are not doing P90X workouts. They’re farming. They’re walking up mountains—doing low-intensity, joint-friendly ongoing activity. We are built to walk. Humans are built to walk.

Suffering is our natural, course-correcting mechanism. When something hurts, when something’s wrong, we have this experience of pain. When we feel out of alignment with our core values, we have these emotions of guilt or depression. These things, when viewed in the bigger picture, are opportunities for us to choose something different and move in a better direction.

I think one of the greatest qualities that anybody can embody is a self-reflective nature.

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Shane Heath is the Founder and CEO of MUD\WTR, which offers a coffee alternative using the nine organic ingredients cacao, masala chai, turmeric, sea salt, cinnamon, chaga, cordyceps, reishi, and lion's mane. Mud gives you natural energy, focus, and immune support with only 1/7th the caffeine of coffee.

An artist and entrepreneur at heart, Shane had already founded three companies (if you don’t count the car wash business he started when he was 12) and had been a graphic designer for much of his career before taking on his most unique project yet. Using the Lean Startup approach, Shane initially put MUD out on the market to test its viability while he was still working full-time. This gave him the confidence he needed to go all-in on the business.

“I’m constantly thinking about finding my potential and moving forward,” says Shane, “whether through new experiences or unlearning old beliefs that no longer serve me.”

Listen in as Shane shares his affinity for creative and entrepreneurial pursuits, alongside his intensely spiritual yet grounded approach to caring for your body and mind and using adversity as fuel for growth in all aspects of your life.

Follow Shane @somanypossibilities

Follow MUD\WTR @drinkmudwtr

Follow Chase @chase_chewning

Key Highlights

  • Why did Shane forge ahead with a product that has a lot of stigma tied to it to this day?

  • How did Shane come to settle on the nine ingredients he currently uses for his coffee alternative?

  • What does Shane do to manage stress and keep his creative juices flowing as an artist and entrepreneur?

  • How has Shane’s life improved through taking risks and facing hardships without anyone watching?

  • How have the events of 2020 shaped Shane’s mindset and hope for the future in 2021?

Powerful Quotes by Shane

If you’re drinking hundreds of milligrams of caffeine for years on end, you sort of lose track of what it feels like to be normal and what your baseline is. And when it hits you, it feels amazing. You’re like, “Oh, that’s what real sleep feels like! That’s what my natural energy feels like in the morning when I wake up letting my body do its thing!”

In the business world, you’re going to be presented with things that you didn’t see coming, that you couldn’t have prepared for. And this is how you prepare: You prepare by putting yourself through hardship all the time.

Going into anything that’s challenging, whether it’s a triathlon or working with a coach with a strong intention is almost equally as important as the thing you’re embarking on itself.

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May joins Chase again to discuss ways to become more intentional with your time and find ways as a couple to stay on track with your physical health and wellness goals.

One of the many challenges 2020 presented was very limited access to gyms and other fitness resources, especially for folks based in Los Angeles like Chase and May. It was a huge hurdle that made it harder not only to get regular workouts in, but also to stay motivated to maintain healthy eating habits.

With their local F45 having opened back up recently, there’s finally been some semblance of normalcy in the couple’s routine. And while F45’s high-intensity, circuit-based workouts aren’t exactly Chase’s cup of tea, the two agreed to make it a part of his routine alongside hers while waiting for other gyms to reopen. This way, each partner became accountable to each other to keep up the new shared routine.

Another new relationship hack that they embraced is sharing their calendar. “It just helps so much with planning life,” says Chase. “You’re more mindful of your partner, too.” And, adds May, it incentivizes either partner to make their daily priorities work around pre-existing tasks for the day.

Chase and May address other common obstacles that get in the way of a couple’s health goals, especially amid lockdowns, including how to keep each other’s eating habits in check and how to incorporate fitness into a family activity. The common thread running through it all is intentionalitydiscipline, and making sure that both partners are on the same page as they find better ways to navigate the many challenges and uncertainties presented by the new normal.

Follow May @mayyazdi

Follow Chase @chase_chewning

Key Highlights

  • The importance of setting a routine for your physical health now, even if conditions aren’t ideal

  • How sharing a calendar with your partner makes daily life easier to navigate in every way

  • What you can do if your partner isn’t into fitness

  • How couples can keep each other’s eating habits in check

  • Finding healthy substitutions for your guilty pleasures

  • Taking intentional breaks

  • How a time log will help you fill massive time sinks throughout your day

Powerful Quotes

  • Especially this year, we’ve all realized how important our health, well-being, and physical activity is. What makes it a lot easier, fun, and habit-forming is if you have somebody with you like a significant other or just a friend or even a gym buddy that can help keep you accountable. ~May

  • The act of getting ready to exercise sets the tone for your entire day. ~May

  • Things so easily slip through the cracks simply because you don’t make the time for them. ~Chase

  • The more we gain awareness of our time and our partner’s time, the more we find ways to strengthen our relationship. ~Chase

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EFR 449: Healthy Ways to Understand and Manage Stress with Liz Carlile

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Liz Carlile is a TEDx speaker and host of the Top 50 Parenting and Spirituality podcast Motherhood Unstressed.

Liz highlights the importance and necessity of family, and how to grow and nurture your relationship with your partner and children. At the same time she gives advice on how not to overlook yourself when trying to be there for your loved ones.

The seed to her brand, Motherhood Unstressed, was planted right after her first son was born in 2012. In that particular moment for Liz, the beautiful promise of motherhood was overshadowed by the intense discomfort, the stress, and the feelings of doubt that plagued her throughout the process.

Liz recalls that “something was amiss” in that moment, and yet she decided she would not “stay in that spot”. She knew that it was no one else’s job—not even her husband’s—to lift her up. It was ultimately hers and hers alone. That was the catalyst behind her mission to promote self-love for mothers everywhere.

Listen in as Liz shares how it is possible for a mother to dedicate time to and nurture a deep relationship with their loved ones while chasing dreams outside of family. Along the way, she offers advice on combating stress and creating self-care rituals.

Follow Liz @motherhoodunstressed

Follow Chase @chase_chewning

Key Highlights

  • How is Liz able to dedicate so much time being present as a mother while hosting a weekly podcast and managing her brand?

  • What can you do to make sure you’re not upsetting the dynamic between yourself, your partner, and your kids—and making sure you yourself don’t stress out—while chasing dreams beyond family?

  • Why self-care is not selfish.

  • How do you gauge whether you’re having success with the amount of time you’ve been pouring into other people to build those relationships?

 

Powerful Quotes by Liz

It just hits you at some point in the process [of giving birth] where you ask yourself, “Who am I? What do I want? What am I doing?” Asking myself those questions early on—not really knowing what to do but just knowing that something was amiss and that I didn’t want to stay in that spot—that was the seed to Motherhood Unstressed and to the work I’m doing right now and to make self-care, self-love, and nurturing the mother my mission and my goal.

When you find something that really speaks to you and that stirs your soul, there’s nothing and no one that can stop you from pursuing it. The onus is on all of us to find out what that is.

Whether you know it or not, you’re either uplifting people or bringing people down. What’s the mark that you want to leave on the world? Because it matters.

 

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Natascha Bessez is an international recording artist, model, spokesperson, and former beauty queen. While her career has taken her to L.A., Natascha was born and raised in New York, where she was crowned Miss New York Teen USA at 18. She has since performed around the world with some of the biggest names in the music industry, bringing her two Billboard Top 30 dance hits along the way.

Her global ambitions paved the way for the opportunity to headline Madrid’s World Pride, place runner-up for Denmark’s Eurovision Song Festival, compete in The Voice in Holland, and, most recently, star in The Bachelor Presents: Listen To Your Heart.

Asked how she knew the career she wanted to build for herself, Natascha replies, “I think it’s not something that you know. It’s something that you do.” With music as just one of her many passions, the last thing she wants is to be boxed in and labeled, identified only by what she happens to be most known for.

“Performance is what I love the most,” says Natscha. Growing up with a Chilean mother and a father of French descent exposed her to different types of music from the day she was born. That developed her love of opera as a kid. She recalls dressing up, belting out, and dancing her heart out on most of those early days. “I enjoyed being watched. I enjoyed expressing.”

This love for performance and expression, along with her natural sanguine personality, led Natascha to all the different creative opportunities that have come her way so far. Through it all, she strives to keep her feet planted firmly on the ground, stay true to herself, and leave a legacy to young girls looking to chart a path on their own terms.

"Why would I want to do something that’s not authentic to who I am? In time, you realize what you’re not in order to find out what you are."

 

Follow Natascha @nataschabessez

Follow Chase @chase_chewning

 

Key Highlights

  • One of the most obvious threads that runs through Natascha’s career is her desire to serve as a role model to girls. She shares the legacy she wants to leave and how she was inspired to do what she does.

  • Natascha explains how she taps into her creative flow.

  • Has Natascha been able to carve her own path in an industry dictated by trends?

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Mar 3, 2021

EFR 447: Leading Amid Crisis and the Endless Endeavor with Greg Anderson

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Greg Anderson is a former Law Enforcement Officer and Special Forces veteran. He caught the public eye with a viral Instagram video he posted on May 6, 2020, in which he, in full uniform, challenged the constitutionality of enforcing strict stay-at-home orders. Greg was promptly terminated. His video went on to garner millions of views and counting.

Asked how the video was received, Greg says that “95% of people were supportive. Tons of police officers, too.” He even got a message from a sergeant who told him that he played the video during roll call. “It’s crazy,” continues Greg, “how eight minutes changed the entire trajectory of my life—defined my life, really.”

A year following the incident, Greg says that the experience freed him from a career that, while he was thankful for, never really felt passionate about. He felt law enforcement was “a kind of natural progression” after his time in the military, and he ended up giving the profession a good eight-year run. “But it was never me. So, this forced me to step outside of that and focus on some things that I’m passionate about.”

Today, Greg dedicates most of his time to his Jiu-Jitsu academy and CrossFit gym, Electric North Jiu Jitsu, which he founded back in 2015. With Chase’s help, through Operation Podcast, Greg also recently launched his own podcast, Endless Endeavor.

 

Follow Greg @greganderson33

Follow Chase @chase_chewning

 

Key Highlights

  • Greg reflects on the past year following the release of his viral video message.

  • The power of vulnerability is key to addressing a variety of issues, from military trauma to homelessness.

  • Chase and Greg speak on the proven use of psychedelics to overcome emotional trauma.

  • What is leadership, and why does Greg think that leadership is sorely lacking in America today?

 

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Today, Chase interviews David Wood, a High-Performance Coach and the Founder of Focus.ceo, a company that aims at helping business owners double their revenue by focusing on less. Listen in as David offers strategies and tips on getting super-focused with your work and life. Also, learn how you can overcome the shiny object syndrome and actually get twice as much done of what you care about!

David opens up about the severe life challenges he had in life and how he is still working on overcoming them. It all dates back to when he was seven years old. He lost his younger sister in a traffic accident, watched it happen. It wasn't until he was 23 that he actually began to realize how the incident had traumatized him in unknowing ways. That was when he sought the help of a psychologist. 

Recollecting the whole experience of healing, he says, "I went through a whole series of learning how to cry, learning how to communicate, learning how to speak. And I think as I got back in touch with my emotions, I think that one has me so lit up and excited to help other people go into emotional vulnerability. Some of the leadership qualities like revealing and taking emotional risks."

David shares the silent symptoms of depression he had realized he was showing all the while. He says, "My body clenches up and gets really tight, probably because of emotional stuff that still isn't handled." Two compelling avenues that you can try are stillness and movement. It worked for him and would probably do so for you too!

Going ahead, David shares his love for helping people reinvent and change their lives for the better. That's where the whole idea of focus.ceo and coaching, came from for him. David has talked about his nine-point-plan for the samurai program, which he uses to help double people's income and time off over 12 months.

 

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Follow Chase @chase_chewning

 

Key Highlights

  • Whenever you see someone who seems successful, you generally assume they’ve had everything in their favor. But it doesn’t work that way. They have seen hard days before the success hit them.

  • The shiny object syndrome is real. Learn how you can work that out.

  • Learn how to get to a million dollars career in the fastest possible time.

  • Embrace the power of yoga and meditation. Know how David could make his life better with it.

  • David finds his success to only be an example and not the ultimate destination. Learn why. 


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