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Health coach turned podcaster, Chase interviews industry leaders in fitness nutrition and mindset. Messages to help you live a life EVER FORWARD.
Chase Chewning, MS, ACE CHC
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Jun 15, 2022
EFR 611: May Yazdi Chewning on Perception, Connection, and Reflection in Your Relationship
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Welcome to your June 2022 relationship health episode with Chase and his wife, May! Today, the two discuss the importance of perception, connection, and reflection. In particular, they draw cards from the game We're Not Really Strangers, a deck that offers engaging conversation starters for couples to strengthen your relationship, romance, trust and openness.
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Did you know that men are 25% less likely to see a physician? When it comes to health and wellness, men are often told to “man up”… but at the cost of what? Our cognition, sex drive, strength, stamina, the list goes on. That’s why this week, we’re focusing on all things men’s health.
Today, we speak with Dr. Jacey Folkers, Doctor of Functional Medicine and Owner of Rise to Wellness, along with Josh Whalen, Founder and CEO of Blokes, a modern men’s healthcare company. These guys are making huge strides in the field of men’s health and they’re here to share their wealth of knowledge and experience on everything from electrolytes to hormones.
In this discussion, they address the myths and misconceptions about male hormones and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), the do’s and don’ts of TRT, and the role of peptides in men’s health. They also speak not only on the physical aspects of hormone replacement and support therapies, but also the emotional and mental aspects of it which are just as important.
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Key Highlights
Dr. Jacey and Josh highlight the research-backed contributors to lowered testosterone levels and factors that affect hormone levels. They also touch on what men can do to keep their hormones balanced.
Feelings of depression, lack of motivation, and low sex drive can be signs of low testosterone levels. Once you enter your 30s or 40s, getting your hormone levels checked can give you great insight into why you’re not feeling your best and how you can begin to optimize your hormonal health.
The trio shares their candid thoughts on what it feels like to optimize your health and lifestyle with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).
What can you expect with TRT? Dr. Jacey breaks down the impacts of low testosterone, like low libido, erectile dysfunction (ED), and mood swings, along with the benefits of TRT, such as greater strength, sex drive, and more frequent morning erections.
Dr. Jacey talks about how to do TRT safely and effectively, the importance of getting your blood tested regularly, and why men should not bottom out their estrogen levels.
What is the relationship between peptides, hormones, and health optimization? Can I use peptides to get off my medication?
If I start TRT, do I have to be on TRT for the rest of my life? Tune in to find out!
Powerful Quotes by Josh Whalen and Dr. Jacey Folkers
One of the barriers that we have as a company is getting beyond the misperception or bad perceptions of testosterone. What we’re doing is replacing what we think should be there for your age… what helps you be better day-to-day. – Josh Whalen
Being in a more optimal testosterone level is gonna make you more of who you are. – Dr. Jacey Folkers
We’re gonna help you get to that finish line a little bit quicker, but you’re still doing the dirty work. You still have to make the lifestyle adjustments, you still have to lift weights, you still have to have an active lifestyle, you’ve got to be committed. – Josh Whalen
Aging doesn’t have to be a difficult process. – Josh Whalen
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You talk to yourself every single day. When you’re processing information and experiences, making decisions, and preparing for the unknown ahead, you always talk yourself through it in your mind, right?
The interesting part of this phenomenon that we all experience is that the conversations we have with ourselves impact our health, performance, decisions, and relationships. In fact, they might just be the most important conversations we can have in our lifetime… and this week’s special guest studies just that.
Ethan Kross is a scientist, award-winning professor, best-selling author of Chatter, and one of the world’s leading experts on controlling the conscious mind.
In this discussion, Ethan and Chase talk about how to harness, understand, and apply the voice in your head to your real life. Ethan speaks on the power of mental chatter and rumination, practical ways to navigate your thoughts and solve problems, and the research he’s done on internal conversation, introspection, and language.
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Key Highlights
Ethan shares the inspiration behind his research on internal conversations, highlighting the value of introspection and working through problems with language.
He speaks on the human ability to mentally time travel, the problems that can arise from mental time travel, and why it might benefit us to not “be in the moment” all the time. These insights drove Ethan to write the book, Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It.
Do we choose to ruminate on the past or is it part of our biology? Ethan shares his thoughts and advice as well as the science behind rumination, worry, and mental chatter.
We all experience mental chatter and rumination, but the trick is to shorten the amount of time we spend in that space and there are many ways to do that!
Does talking about your problems actually make you feel better? Ethan highlights the role that other people play in regulating our emotions, scientific research on the consequences of venting, and the ultimate solution for overwhelming mental chatter.
Once you know about the tools that enable you to navigate mental chatter, you then have the opportunity to be deliberate in solving problems. Ethan explains how to use his primary personal strategy for navigating mental chatter, called distanced self-talk, as an efficient tool for gaining some distance on your problems.
Do we all have an inner voice? Yes! Though, there’s great variability in how each individual experiences their inner voice. Listen in to learn how second or third languages impact our learning, perception, and understanding of emotions.
Powerful Quotes by Ethan Kross
On one end, we have this remarkable tool, this ability to use language to solve problems, innovate, create, but this tool often gets us in deep trouble… Why is that and when it gets us in trouble, what can we do to right the ship? I ended up going to graduate school to figure out how to use science to answer those questions.
One of the reasons why other people can be so incredibly helpful when it comes to our chatter is they have some distance and objectivity when it comes to the situation… They’re not involved, they can weigh in soundly, and to be clear, that doesn’t mean that they’re always providing you with lovey dovey support.
I think we’re living through the chatter event of the last hundred years. The hits just keep coming.
I don’t get down on myself when I experience a blip of negativity because I know that that’s part of life and actually, the small blips of negativity are usually doing something good for us. Negative emotions in small doses are really helpful, but I don’t try to bathe in them, either.
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This week’s guest is living, thriving proof that to live the life of your dreams, you need to know yourself, be courageous, and act in alignment with your intelligence. Let’s explore what that means and how you can start doing that right now.
We all know that personal and entrepreneurial growth and development isn’t a walk in the park. It requires you to lean into discomfort, listen to your intuition, and make really hard choices… but the payoff can be life-changing!
Anne Mahlum is an entrepreneur, motivational speaker, athlete, and the Founder of [solidcore], a fast-growing boutique fitness company she founded in 2013 and quickly scaled to more than 80 locations in 27 states. She’s also the Founder of Back on My Feet, a national non-profit organization that’s using running as a vehicle to help those experiencing homelessness change the way they see themselves so they can change the direction of their lives.
In this discussion, Anne and Chase delve into Anne’s impressive entrepreneurial journey, her candid opinions on personal growth and development, and why the self-care movement needs a major rebrand. Plus, Anne shines light on how she’s curating and creating branded experiences through authenticity.
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Key Highlights
Anne shares the strategic process behind her massive business growth over the past eight years, highlighting why she sourced private funding to grow and scale her business as well as why she decided to step down as CEO of [solidcore] and Back on My Feet.
The success of [solidcore] and Back on My Feet can be attributed most to Anne’s willingness to break the organizations’ ties to her as the founder. She realized that the more systems she has in place that allow her to step back, the more her companies can grow, expand, and help others.
Anne candidly shares her hot take on self-care culture and the ever-present “you deserve it” language. Is it actually healthy?
Anne speaks on the power of knowing yourself and acting in alignment with your intuition and intelligence. How do we get to where we have the clarity and courage to say “hell yes” or “hell no” to something? How do you decide to act against something that you’ve already decided you’ll do, especially when you know that decision to say no will propel you forward?
Meaningful change is uncomfortable and often painful. When we’re in that painful discomfort, it can be easy to want to give anything for it to go away, but when we’re on the other side of it, we’re often very grateful for the growth we experienced.
Powerful Quotes by Anne Mahlum
I know what I’m trying to do right now and I know what my goals are and I’m laser focused on getting that done. So, I won’t look for the excuse, I won’t look for the Friday, I won’t look for the “I deserve to” because I’m gonna get off my path right now and I’m not gonna put myself in that position.
The only time people make any real change in their life is when they’re so sick and tired of the way things are going... No one makes extraordinary change in their life when things are just fine.
It’s that pause and reflection of how you’re spending your time, the habits that you’ve created – Are they serving you? Are they serving the people close to you? Can you be doing things differently? – and also celebrating the things that you’re doing correctly.
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Fitness, particularly men’s fitness, is more than the weight you can lift or how fast you can build muscle. It’s about finding the physical activities you enjoy, being okay with failure, and getting creative. Furthermore, fitness is about connecting the mind with the body.
This week’s guest is a health and fitness educator who, throughout the pandemic, has gained some pretty powerful insights on fitness accessibility and the role of fitness in mental health.
Ebenezer Samuel, CSCS, is the Fitness Director at Men’s Health Magazine and the Head of Training Innovation at FlexIt Fitness, a virtual personal training app.
In this discussion, Ebenezer and Chase talk about the power of being the eternal beginner and how fitness can positively (and even negatively) impact mental health. He sheds light on his relationship with fitness and what he’s learned from the trends in physical activity he’s noticed over the past 2 years. Ebenezer also gives great advice for beginners in fitness on finding what fitness routine is best for you.
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Key Highlights
Although there will always be a level of challenge in it, fitness has never been more accessible and attainable than it is today. “I think we finally understand, in the fitness community, that just getting people moving is the most important thing… and let’s not make this about 100 burpees,” Ebenezer says. The primary goal now is to find the balance between accessibility and a healthy amount of challenge/difficulty.
As a health and fitness educator, Ebenezer sheds light on how he’s navigated the pandemic and what he’s learned from trends in fitness throughout the past two years. The primary thing he has realized is that educating the beginner is what’s most important and impactful.
We’re all beginners in fitness at some point. Most of us will be beginners multiple times, whether we try a new activity or we lose a skill/technique by not practicing it. Ebenezer details the 3 key things about being an eternal beginner: you have to be okay with the struggle of failure, asking questions when you don’t know something, and embracing discomfort when trying new things.
Ebenezer breaks down how to find the best fitness routine for you, regardless of your experience level. He also speaks on the role of creativity in fitness and how he gets creative in his fitness routine.
He shares his candid thoughts on the role of fitness professionals and fitness education in the digital age as the world of social media has expanded.
Chase and Ebenezer speak on the impact of fitness on mental health and emotional health and how the fitness industry has shifted to address mental health. “For some people, fitness can be a detriment to [their] mental health… it’s not so much the act of fitness as it is the pressure surrounding them,” Ebenezer says, “I think for a lot of us and I think for myself, during the pandemic, fitness was kind of a way to center myself and pass the time… having that control was very useful to my mental health and can be useful to anybody’s mental health.”
Powerful Quotes by Ebenezer Samuel
What I’ve realized over the last two years and what I’ve realized through my tenure in Men’s Health is that a lot of times, it’s about educating the beginner.
That exploration is something that those of us who are experienced in fitness can and must continue and it’s something that can help the new person, or the beginner, somebody who is on fire for fitness… to sort of find the best starting point for them because it doesn’t necessarily need to be strength training, it doesn’t need to be cardio, it doesn’t need to be yoga, it needs to be what’s going to keep you fitnessing over the long haul. That is the best version of fitness for you.
The key thing with adherence for fitness is that people are having fun and they’re enjoying it but they want to do it.
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If you struggle finding the motivation to get up in the morning, you’re not doing your best at work, or you battle with an inner monologue that’s telling you what you need to do, but you just CAN’T get yourself together to execute and be productive…
You might be experiencing burnout.
Whitney Eckis is a serial entrepreneur and marketing guru whose mission is to inspire and empower entrepreneurship, influence, and empowering women in the business industry. Whitney believes that whether or not you’re taking a break, starting something new, or advancing in your career, you are continuing to move forward and evolve.
In this discussion, Whitney and Chase talk about all things BURNOUT. She sheds light on what it was like to be diagnosed with severe anxiety disorder and depression, the tools and practices she uses to improve and maintain her mental health, and why she’s grateful for experiencing burnout. Plus, she talks about how she’s using radical transparency to prevent burnout and build trust within her company’s team.
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Key Highlights
Our intense desire to be productive is often driven by a fear of failure or not being good enough. Sitting with yourself and realizing the voice inside your head is protecting you, while also acknowledging when you need a break, is very impactful.
To avoid burnout as an entrepreneur, Whitney looks at the flow of her work ethic and where she wants to be. If she’s not able to rest and pause, the quality of her work and leadership will be compromised. So, she makes sure to balance her time, integrate rest into her life, and get honest about when she needs a break.
It’s important to have people to hold space for you and hold you accountable, especially as an entrepreneur. Therapy and a business coach are two key tools Whitney uses to shift her mindset, boost internal confidence, and understand herself better so she can do business better.
Whitney uses radical transparency and honesty to build trust amongst her company’s team, ensure her work is the highest quality possible, prevent burnout, and empower her team to take care of themselves. If she needs to cancel a meeting because she needs a mental health day, she’s honest and transparent about it.
Feelings of doubt, fear, and scarcity are likely to come up throughout your life, but recognizing and becoming aware of them gives you the power to shift your mindset and create a new perspective moving forward.
Powerful Quotes by Whitney Eckis
What you’re doing and how you’re serving your consumer or how you’re serving your team… is going to show up energetically in your work.
We get to see the light at the end of the tunnel and see how awesome life can really be if we choose to really educate ourselves and become aware of our mental health.
It really showed me how much I was walking through business in fear and walking through a scarcity mindset.
Ultimately, if we’re feeling like “I’m a fraud, I don’t have enough experience, XYZ…” it’s either A) I’m feeling challenged and I’m scared of this challenge or B) It’s not aligned and it’s not really going to serve me.
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May 25, 2022
EFR 605: The Truth Behind Ketosis, Metabolic Biohacking, and Performance Optimization with Michael Brandt
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Welcome to your ketone supplementation and metabolic biohacking, and athletic performance optimization masterclass!
You’ve probably heard of the ketogenic diet by now… but have you heard of a daily ketone supplement?
Michael Brandt and HVMN have discovered one that helps support mental clarity, athletic performance, and metabolic health. He is one of the masterminds behind this product and is here to chat about all things metabolic health, biohacking, performance optimization, and daily wellness.
Michael Brandt is the Co-Founder and CEO of Health Via Modern Nutrition (HVMN), a company that creates and sells a ketone ester drink called Ketone-IQ™ as well as nootropic supplements and other products than support a ketogenic diet. Beyond his passion for health and entrepreneurship, Michael loves running.
In this discussion, Michael and Chase talk about metabolic health, personal biohacking optimization, and ways to connect your active, physical life to your professional life. Michael sheds light on his approach to business, research, and product development as well as the tools and practices he uses to support his health, wellness, and performance as an entrepreneur and athlete.
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Key Highlights
Michael breaks down the science behind the ketogenic diet and the nutritional value of ketone supplements. He speaks on the ways you can naturally elevate your ketone levels as well as the role that ketone supplementation can play in your overall health and wellness.
What does it feel like to supplement with ketones? Michael contrasts ketone supplementation with consumption of other substances, like nicotine and caffeine. It’s not like any other substance, it’s truly its own experience with its own benefits.
Two major threads in Michael’s life are running and business. Listen in as he describes the connection between being a runner and being an entrepreneur along with the importance of consistency in effort, pacing yourself, and taking time to rest. “It’s a marathon, not a sprint.”
The health and wellness industry has been leaving behind the dogma that you need one specific diet or workout routine to be healthy and perform your best. One health trend Michael really likes right now are wearables and health hardware because it’s taking the guessing out of your health variables, leaving you with actionable insights about your specific body.
How do you combine qualitative health data with quantitative health data? Michael shares what he’s learned from high performing athletes, emphasizing the value of letting how you feel override the quantitative KPIs. This was exemplified by Simone Biles, an Olympian athlete who recently retired from sports because her mental health was suffering.
Michael’s hacks for performance optimization include intermittent fasting with an 8-hour eating window, sometimes eating only one meal a day. He also follows a rule of doing something active every single day, even if it’s just going for a walk.
Powerful Quotes by Michael Brandt
It’s pretty cool to be able to just drink and feel a runner’s high.
If every meeting, if every surface area of your brand, you’re trying to reinvent it or you’re not sure what your values are and you’re not sure what the reason is you even exist, then you’re gonna end up with this weird, wonky brand… because you’re indecisive as a leader.
A beautiful life is one where you’re taking who you are and you’re putting it out into the world and you should always be making forward progress to that.
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May 23, 2022
EFR 604: How to Get the Best Sleep Possible Even If You’re a Bad Sleeper with Ariel Garten
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How to get better sleep is a question we all have probably asked ourselves. Or what about poor sleepers, how can they sleep better?
Ariel Garten is the Founder of InteraXon, makers of Muse, the brain sensing headband. Ariel is a neuroscientist and sleep expert that’s passionate about prioritizing sleep and brain health.
The reality is that when you honor your sleep, you honor every other part of your life. Simply put, sleep impacts your quality of life, so it’s extremely important to prioritize your sleep routine and sleep hygiene.
In this discussion, Ariel and Chase talk about neuroscience through the lens of sleep so we can better understand what’s going on inside the brain and leverage that information to get the best quality sleep possible. Tune in to learn Ariel’s expert insights about the wild world of sleep, from the effects of caffeine to napping and everything in between!
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Key Highlights
When it comes to sleep, we should care more about the quality of our sleep than the quantity. Poor sleep affects us cognitively, physiologically, and emotionally.
If you’re struggling to fall asleep and stay asleep, you wake up multiple times per night, and you’re unclear how many hours of sleep you actually get, it’ll be super helpful to track your sleep and make a plan to improve it.
During the pandemic, many people have improved their sleep, but for many people, the anxiety of covid-19 has made sleep miserable. For Ariel, a proactive approach to regularly calming her nervous system was key for managing her anxiety and her sleep hygiene.
Not only do stress, anxiety, worry, and fear inhibit sleep, but the fear of not sleeping and the busyness of the mind also impacts your sleep. Ariel recommends meditation and relaxation activities. If you can’t sleep, just continue laying there and trying to relax. Eventually, you’ll fall asleep. If you have common thoughts that keep you up, take time while you’re awake to truly process those thoughts and cognitively reframe them.
There are two main mechanisms that put your brain to sleep, one is circadian rhythm governed by melatonin, the other is sleep pressure and that’s governed by adenosine.
Caffeine strongly impacts the brain, often making it difficult to sleep by blocking your body’s ability to make you sleepy. For optimal sleep, you should stop caffeine intake by 12pm.
Exercise, sunlight, and napping can impact your circadian rhythm and your quality of sleep, but only at the proper time and amount.
No matter your age or sleep history, it’s never too late to improve your cognitive function. Even one good night’s sleep will help restore your cognitive function and help your brain and body repair and regenerate.
Powerful Quotes by Ariel Garten
What you measure, you can then improve and change.
One of the greatest things to improve your brain health and your sleep simultaneously is exercise.
Great sleep actually starts in the morning, so you want to get up in the morning at a time that’s comfortable for you.
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May 18, 2022
EFR 603: Outgrowing Old Relationships and Discovering the Truest Version of You with May Yazdi Chewning
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May and Chase kick things off reflecting on their recent out-of-town trips to catch up with family and friends—May in happening Miami for a bachelorette party, Chase in small-town Virginia for a high school reunion.
May shares that she’s been feeling a “gap” of sorts growing between her and a number of her old family and friends, especially over these past two, life-changing years. She says that the more she has become comfortable with her innate spirituality, the more she feels “pulled away” from certain past relationships.
Growth is not a journey to become a different version of yourself. Rather, it’s a journey to discovering the version of you that was always there—your truest self.
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Key Highlights
May reads Chase’s high school yearbook bio. After nine years together, she admits that she only knew one out of the couple dozen facts written on it.
It’s always painful to realize that you’ve outgrown certain relationships, but Chase and May see it as indicative of having personally changed for the better—mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
Chase and May look back on their personal and professional growth since their move out West, saying that California was the environment that has allowed who they have been all along to finally shine.
Powerful Quotes
I’m starting to feel somewhat of a gap where I’m pulled away from certain relationships from my life. Not that I want them out of my life, but I can’t relate anymore. I think what’s happening is, we are really evolving as people. This last year for us has been extremely transformative on a very personal and spiritual level. ~May
When your relationship with yourself has changed and evolved, it’s a reminder that the distance that you think is there now between yourself and other people is really the distance you have within yourself that has expanded so much. ~Chase
When people say, “You’ve changed,” I say, “Thank God!” I’m glad I’ve changed. I’d be worried if I stayed the same. ~May
You’re not becoming a different version of you. You’re just getting closer to the version of you that’s always been there—your truest self. ~Chase
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When something doesn’t feel right within you, what do you do? Look to Dr. Google, sweep it under the rug, or try all the trendy health hacks until you’re sick and tired of nothing working? Maybe it’s time to try a different approach.
Krista Berlincourt has traveled the world in search of optimizing one thing: her health. Now, she’s the CEO & co-founder of Kenshō Health, a company that makes holistic health easy with a provider network and platform backed by science. As a Certified Health Coach, Krista and her team of experts have supported thousands of people, from new parents to biohackers and busy professionals, get clear on their goals, shift habits, and stick to a plan for lasting change.
In this discussion, Krista and Chase talk about how to holistically identify imbalances in your health so you can live a more optimized life. She shares her approach to evaluating core contributors to health and wellness, the value of seeing a naturopath and health coach in addition to a traditional doctor, and the story behind why she decided to build a health coaching company. You’ll gain insight into Krista’s own health journey and the challenges she’s encountered along the way.
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Key Highlights
So often, our medical data might show that we’re fine, but when something inside of you doesn’t feel good, it takes exploration to get clear on what’s out of balance.
Krista began experiencing a rate of change in her career so rapid that she was no longer conscious of how much energy she was putting out. What was first diagnosed as chronic adrenal fatigue was actually her body’s way of saying it’s tired.
When evaluating her core contributors to health on a scale of 1-10, Krista found that every aspect of her health, besides her job and her relationship, was a 2 because she was so hyper-focused on keeping her relationship and her career alive.
A bumpy wheel can’t role. If you’re unbalanced and you find that your body feels great but you feel unwell, look to the other aspects of your health. Are other areas of your life unbalanced, like your finances, spirituality, or fun?
Seeing a naturopath and going the functional medicine route has unique benefits compared to traditional Western medicine. Listen in to hear Krista detail the benefits she experienced from seeing a naturopathic doctor and why she has naturopathic doctors on her team.
Krista follows a three-pronged approach to health: Notice the signals your body is producing (and don’t suppress or judge them), then test to find out what the diagnosis is (either lab tests or practical mental health tests with professionals), then treat (implement solutions).
Powerful Quotes by Krista Berlincourt
Health is so much more than biomarkers and bloodwork, it’s the answer to one question, which is: How do you feel, really?
In the way that you can have infidelity in a relationship, you can have infidelity in a soul. You can cheat on yourself. You can do things that are consciously diverting away from the promise that each of us has to ourselves to remain healthy and happy and whole.
You are your first patient.
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How are your current money patterns limiting your success? This bonus episode is in collaboration with past guest Ashley Stahl and her podcast You Turn. Ever Forward Radio is excited to share this conversation with Chris Harder, an entrepreneur and the founder of the For the Love of Money brand and podcast.
Join them to bust through your limiting beliefs with money so you can change your financial future as Chris and Ashley discuss two key factors to write your ticket anywhere, indicators of your current money mindset, patterns with money and how you can use money and goals to improve and inspire relationships.
Walk down the path to take responsibility for your financial and life goals! Like so many people, Chris hit rock bottom during the recession but he did something many didn’t. Discover how he used this financial hardship to rebuild his views and mindset on money, relationships, and life.
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This episode happened to be recorded on International Women’s Day and it’s very fitting because these two women are killing it as entrepreneurs in the fashion industry. Thus, they absolutely deserve to have the spotlight shown on them, their partnership, and their fast-growing brand.
Mary Ralph Lawson and Kennedy Crichlow are best friends and Co-Founders of Daily Drills, an apparel company designed by and for women who find adventure in every day. The pair decided to launch Daily Drills less than two years ago and have already seen sell-out after sell-out. Not to mention, they’re only in their mid-twenties and have never gone to fashion school… so how did they do it?
In this discussion, Mary, Kennedy, and Chase talk about owning and scaling a business with your best friend, overcoming the fear and uncertainty you face after graduating from college, and how to move forward out of failure. Plus, they share an amazing story of how a business crisis turned into a key learning opportunity for them.
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Key Highlights
Even though Daily Drills was launched during the pandemic, Mary and Kennedy have seen immense growth and evolution in their brand. Listen in as they describe why their products have evolved from activewear to loungewear, how they come up with ideas for new apparel designs, and how they’ve grown and scaled their company so fast.
Would you have executed this business idea if you didn’t already have a social media following? Mary and Kennedy share their candid thoughts on how a strong social media presence increases your confidence in starting a business and lowers your risk of business failure. Even though it’s not necessary, it’s helpful!
What keeps Daily Drills thriving and their social media presence so strong is the engagement of their followers. The duo explains the importance of focusing on engagement, rather than follower count, and creating a sense of closeness/friendship between them and their followers.
What is the right time to scale? How do you know when to outsource help and hire interns or full-time employees? “It creates burnout if you’re not delegating. It’s definitely something we talk about frequently because our end goal is to grow and sell so we do also have to empower people to help us because we’re not going to get there alone.”
Mary and Kennedy speak on the role of trusting their own and each other’s intuition to guide them towards entrepreneurial success. They also speak on the trials and tribulations of being women in business and whether or not they want to have a completely women-run company.
Powerful Quotes by Mary and Kennedy
If we’re instinctual and in tune with pushing the boundaries forward, then it’s going to be fine because Daily Drills is who we are at the end of the day… it really exudes our personalities, spontaneity, and positivity and that translates in our clothes… As long as we have that core messaging and that core focal point of what are we excited by and what are we dressing in and what are we looking for in the market, it’ll be aligned with us.
I did not go to school for fashion, I wish I had looking back on it but you don’t have to go to school for it to do it, even at 25.
If we didn’t have followings, I feel like we would have been joined with somebody else that had a following because we know, especially in today’s market, just how advantageous that is. We haven’t spent any money on influencer marketing and it’s because of the network and our own platforms.
So much greatness comes out of chaos.
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