EFR 848: Enoughness - How to Learn From Your Ego, Be Guided by Intuition, and Let Go of External Validation with Yedda Stancil

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00:04 - Yedda (Guest) Hi, this is Yetta Stancil. I am so excited to be here today talking to you, and I was thinking what is my title? This is a great one. So today my title is I Am Enough. That's my title. So I help people learn about enoughness. I am enough. And today I'm here to talk to you on Ever Forward Radio.

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02:22 Welcome to Everford Radio. I'm so glad that you are here with me today as we begin to wrap up another incredible year. If you're tuning in live, we are wrapping up the show. We are wrapping up the year. We are wrapping up 2024. And I could not think of a better guest to put a little bookend on the interviews for 2024 than someone that, if you've been listening to the show for a while, it's gonna sound very familiar, and someone that is instrumental to my life, my personal development and my story of living a life ever forward. I'm talking about the one and only the repeat guest, the amazing, my former, first ever coach and mentor, yetta Stancil. She is back again.

03:00 If you find value in what Yetta delivers here today, I got a couple quick asks. One if you're not already follow the show, subscribe to the show on whichever podcast platform you're tuning in here today. That would be like the best thing ever. It really does support the show. It would mean a lot to me and Yedda Also. Share this out. Share this out with one person in your life that you think would find value in what Yedda is delivering here today to enhance their personal and professional life, to help them move forward, to live a life ever forward going into the new year. And if you want to check out more of what Yedda has to say, I'm going to go ahead and link her past experiences on the show down in the show notes under episode resources.

03:39 But who is she? All right, well, if you're new, yedda is an inclusive visionary. All right, well, if you're new, yetta is an inclusive, visionary author, wisdom seeker, world's most curious soul and advocate for acceptance and belonging. In this episode here, welcome to a safe space, welcome to a conversation where curiosity meets enlightenment. So let's sit down together, let's stay in the car together, let's work out together wherever you're tuning in here today, and let's explore the power of diverse perspectives. She is a seasoned team coach and facilitator, a dynamic, motivational speaker igniting the flames of inspiration within your core, and a visionary success strategist who transforms achievement into an ethereal experience, if you will, and with her expertise as a narrative coach, she skillfully crafts the narrative of your life into tales of triumph. But in her spare moments and her personal life and her fun side, yetta really effortlessly embodies the role of a modern mystic. She creates sacred havens where spirituality seamlessly intertwines with your unique individuality. Yetta is the perfect blend of sophistication and soul, an indispensable asset for your personal development and leadership journey. And I can co-sign on that because, like I said earlier, I would not be here today if it were not for the direct mentorship, coaching and now friendship of this woman, yetta Stansel.

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07:12 Yetta, welcome back, number four. And for those of you that don't know, you've heard, you know a lot of Yetta's backstory from the intro. But not only is this her fourth time back on the podcast, but she is one of the OG guests on Everford Radio. So she was on last in episode 710 and then 464. And then, before that, episode nine, episode nine, when I didn't know what this was, I didn't know what I was doing, but I knew that I wanted, needed to do something. And we sat in your home office back in Richmond, virginia, when I was still living there, I was still working and anything and everything I'm doing now was not even on my radar in terms of like imagination of what I was working towards, what I wanted to create my dream. I had no idea I was just doing and now I'm being, and, um, you know you were a huge part of that, so thank you as always and welcome back.

08:16 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, absolutely my pleasure. I'm so glad to be back. I guess I better really enjoy this, cause it sounds like every four, three to 400 episodes I get invited. So, um, I got a ways till I come back, so I'm going to make the best of this one.

08:30 - Chase (Host) If we do the quick math yeah you do the math.

08:33 - Yedda (Guest) Um, yeah, gosh, it's hard to believe and it feels like every time you and I get together like we were just, we were just talking for me at least, and so, gosh it. Yeah, I feel like we just did episode nine. And then, um, yeah, and then coming out to California and the ways that we've connected and chatted through the years, I mean it's just, it's amazing, and I love seeing where you are in your audience and what you're building based upon where you started. It was always in you and you know, I think people always see what's in us before we do, and so I remember sitting there seeing that and I knew, I knew the minute you said the words ever forward out of your mouth and you had that that little microphone and I heard your voice on them.

09:18 I was like this is totally this is where you need to be Quit quit whatever you're doing and follow this path. And I just can't believe. Be Quit quit whatever you're doing and follow this path. And I just can't believe. I mean I hope you're doing something really big when you hit a thousand. That's, that's incredible. I mean, that's unreal.

09:34 - Chase (Host) Yeah, I guess that's kind of coming up. I haven't thought about that.

09:37 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, I mean it's yeah, yeah.

09:40 So I mean, and it's just, it's really amazing. I knew not only you had something to give, but I knew the message of Ever Forward. When we do something in service to something greater than ourselves, the universe says, okay, now I can work with that. And that's what you were doing, and I know it was your motto. I know it was your personal story about your dad and everything he taught you. And yet, at the same time, there was just this energy that said this is bigger than you and when you do that and you're in service, it just it, it, it multiplies, it grows, and to see you where you've been and where you've come now is just the coolest thing ever. So I'm I'm really excited to be here and talk again.

10:21 - Chase (Host) Well, thank you, I'll take that in. I receive all of that, and before we jump into our conversation today and your latest work and just where you are in life, I want to paint a little bit more of a picture of the conversations that we've had in the past and the types of messaging that you hold and how you help people physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. And I want to go all the way back to episode nine, and that was titled how Limiting Beliefs Hold Us Back From Our True Potential. And then we fast forwarded a little bit to episode 464. And this was when your first book came out, shut Up and Sit, and this was all about finding silence and all the life-changing magic that comes with it. And then, most recently, episode 710, this was back in May 2023, about how, why ego is not always the enemy, the power of theta brainwaves and reprogramming your habits. So kind of all over the place, but also kind of not. If you tune into one of those episodes, you're going to be able to tune into all of them.

11:31 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, yeah, why do I feel like that was a bizarre almost kind of weird eulogy feeling of like of the whole integration of my ego up until this moment. And as you were saying that, I thought, wow, I mean, we're all teaching what we most need to learn. And so when I go back and look at that, when we were sitting at my table in my old house, I was in the throes of a really just ugly meltdown of my own psyche. I was ending a 20 year marriage, my son was getting ready to go off to college. I mean, I don't even know how I got up and functioned every day. I was in the. I mean, I was.

12:15 I was searching for these ways of working with my own limiting beliefs and you know, the coach in me, the consultant in me, the, you know, the teacher in me was like, well, okay, if I'm learning this, then let me teach it to all these other people. And it was in the teaching um that I was searching and I wanted to know how do I let go of these limiting beliefs? Why am I doing what I'm doing? How did I get stuck here again? You know, how does everybody else make it? And I've coached some incredibly, wonderfully successful, talented people and yet at the same time I was just beating myself up.

12:50 I was my own worst enemy, inner critic. And you know this whole idea of personal development and you've heard all my stories over the years of just paying gobs of money, traveling all over the place, chasing these gurus, chasing these thought leaders, and it wasn't working. And I was so frustrated and so you know I had a great career in health and wellness and you know that because we worked together in that that was the easy part. You know. Exercise, nutrition, that was like instant gratification. I could make things manifest that way. But man, the inside was just really dogging me, I just couldn't. And the inside was just really dogging me, I just couldn't. So that first episode with you, episode nine, I definitely remember. Just, I mean, I was a hot mess. I mean I was getting up and doing my work, but I mean, chase, I was drinking a bottle of wine at night, crying myself to sleep, you know, sending out a hundred angry.

13:38 - Chase (Host) I was none the wiser. I had no idea.

13:41 - Yedda (Guest) Nobody knew, nobody knew I had no idea. Nobody knew, nobody knew I was sending out a hundred angry text messages a day to all these people who, just you know, I thought the problem was everything out there, and then I got introduced to this idea of limiting beliefs and it was, and I was really angry, like somebody gave me those beliefs and so that, um, so that's, I think, why it does feel like my topics were a little bit all over the place, because I was a little bit all over the place, I mean, and then I would show up and get it together and walk out the door and be like, ok, I'm going to do it again, I'm going to try better today. And so then when we got into, you know it took me what 400 plus episodes to then come back to. And you do an episode a week, correct?

14:28 - Chase (Host) Now yeah, recently I down throttled actually from two a week to one.

14:32 - Yedda (Guest) Okay, all right, so anyway it was several years between episodes and I had arrived at that place around the whole ego and I thought the ego is not the enemy because she was the one that the more I tried to, you know, get rid of her, the louder she got. The bigger she got, the more you know. The tighter the pants, the you know, the the more you know imagining. I used to love to smoke and I don't anymore, but I did smoke two packs a day way back in the eighties when it was like the cool thing.

15:03 Yeah, man, I loved smoking. I didn't know that, holy shit. Yeah, I loved smoking, I loved getting high, I loved drinking, I loved anything that would just turn it off. And then when I got into the health and wellness industry and then I got you know I talk about my next book eventually is going to be sober, silent, sane, where I started learning to be healthy I started naturally dropping a lot of those coping mechanisms that were really helping me to manage, just turning it all off.

15:34 And that's when the ego just started to really rear her head and I thought I got to do something with this. And so when we got on that second episode I was really working with and I was frustrated and pissed off again because I was like killing the ego doesn't work. You and I talked about this. You know the ego is the enemy. It's a great book title, but it just I was like, yeah, she's not going anywhere, it's not working. And so that was my next evolution was to learn how to befriend that part of myself and to listen to her, because a lot of times she was right. There was some stuff I needed to either face or deal with or call on courage, but she just wasn't mature enough to get out of that adolescent juvenile you know, backflip out the window while she was flicking you the bird and telling you six ways to Sunday, which you know which, which way to go down the F street, and um, and so I think then come to you know, the last episode we did. It's just a natural evolution of my own personal development and I just think if all of us could just start being a little bit more honest about that.

16:38 I wrote the book Shut Up and Sit, because that's how I learned to befriend my ego. I had to get silent, I had to get still and I had to listen to that. That voice inside of our head is not who we are, and that was the first thing. I had to realize that somewhere, somehow, there was a part of me that just wouldn't shut up and I had to start to turn inward to deal with her and um, yeah, and so then you know my, my most recent work around Enough Already and kind of digging in was now that I've learned to befriend her.

17:09 How do I show up as this integrated, whole, real, authentic person and you and I?

17:17 You know we've talked recently about this and I love Brene Brown's work years ago. I think she missed it early on in the message, which was not about belonging and joining to a group of people. It was about me learning to belong to me and be my greatest advocate, my greatest best friend, my greatest ally, my greatest, you know, resource that I call upon first before I call you, before I call my mom, before I call a thought leader, before I register for a seminar, is how do I just build the habit loop of coming back home to me and going what do I most want and need? That to me is the authenticity that you know we're still calling it personal development. I think it's more of an integrative development field and it's growing, but I think that's the way that we need to start talking about the content and you, you led into that perfectly. The doing starts to shift and then it doesn't mean we never act again, but we can learn to be who we are, and that effortless ease creates momentum beyond anything I've ever had to force.

18:24 - Chase (Host) Yeah, kind of a lot of things came up for me and what you just said, but for some reason this idea that personal development is dead, kind of just I don't know why, like those words just rose to the top for me, and this is maybe where I need to be checked in terms of, you know, we do a lot of work on ourselves and then you kind of reach a saturation point. If you will, or you reach a point of all right, I've acquired a lot of tools. Now I can just know that they're in my toolbox, live my life, not stay complacent by any means. But I don't need to be as pedal to the metal with giving me all the books, all the conferences, all the seminars, all the podcasts, all the things, and I kind of also see that a little bit as a trend. Maybe it's just like a saturation point in content, maybe it's a saturation point in podcasts Is that what's going on, or is this person really needing to evolve?

19:19 - Yedda (Guest) I'm going to throw the and in there. I just wrote a newsletter that's going to drop tomorrow, that's called the Land of, and in there I just wrote a newsletter that's going to drop tomorrow, um, that's called the land of, and um, which is the land I'm learning. Yeah, the, the just there's another book, I don't know. I just, you know, who knows, I just keep writing Um, you know the land of, and is getting out of that that duality, thinking that there's, you know, a beginning and an end, or there's um contemplation, you know, or action, or there's duality of right or wrong, or good or bad.

19:46 The word and is the most powerful word because it connects everything and builds a bridge to anything. And so for me, especially in my narrative coaching work that I did along the way in between all your episodes on my own, was really learning the power of language. Language represents my thoughts, so whatever I'm thinking is what I'm saying. And so in narrative coaching, we listen to what people are saying and what they're not saying, and I had to do that for myself. And in this whole word of and I thought, as soon as we finish a sentence or a statement, we're usually in a finality, which usually leads to some form of judgment. And I thought what if I added, and to every thought and every sentence or statement or conversation I was having with somebody, and then what? And what happened next? And where do you want to go from here, and what other choice do you have? And so what I'm it's like improv or personal development.

20:39 It is it is yeah, and so here's what I think is really cool about this so is personal development dead? I don't think the art and act of growth and evolution is ever dead, because nothing ever stays the same, and even though I said in my title, shut up and sit, and it said finding silence, you know, and all the life changing magic that comes with it, there really is no time of silence or stillness, ever. We can sit in the right position, close our eyes, open our eyes. However, we want to get into some kind of mindfulness practice or meditation, the truth is if and I do this to clients sometimes I tell them to take their ears and plug them, just put their fingers in their ears and what happens is I'm like, what do you hear? And they hear this little bit of a. It could be a humming or a buzzing, or because there's energy, we are energy, it's moving, and so they begin to hear it, and then you know the idea of energy it doesn't ever stop. I mean, death is when it truly becomes still, and so, for me, I think the energy of evolution and growth is going to always continue as part of the human experience.

21:48 I think the belief that we're broken is starting to fail us, it's starting to unravel, it's starting to get people's attention, and so I think that's why we're in the social breakdown that we are in. And so I think that's why we're in the social breakdown that we are in. You look across any system or structure right now and it is in a challenging place right now, and that's why we're talking more about diversity, equity, inclusion, justice, because people are noticing that this belief that I'm not good enough is total bullshit. It's a lie and it's been used for so long to disempower people that now that people are waking up, they're like well, wait a minute, maybe I am enough, maybe I am worthy, maybe I can do that, maybe I can speak my voice and ask for more money, because the CEO is making 15 times what I'm making.

22:47 I mean we could go across the board here religion, corporate, you know, it's across the board politics and so I think the belief that we're not enough and that we're not worthy is people are waking up from that and going that lie. I'm not wearing that anymore and then I think what's happening Chase is the next step. After that is when we believe we're not enough. Then we, we built, we, we go in and we completely, you know, give our money and our time and our energy, energy and our whole life to the solution. And then all of a sudden you're like, well, shit, if I'm enough now, what do I do?

23:22 - Chase (Host) Yeah, what do I do with my time, energy and resources now?

23:25 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah. And so what happens is you call it all back in and you have this I love the word self-referral and then you begin to refer to yourself and you're like, well, if I have everything that I need, if the wisdom is here and I don't need the commentary out there before I act and go out into the world, what does that look like? It's very empowering, but it's scary as hell, because could you imagine, how do we run a world where people are empowered? And so I think we're moving into an area of awakening. I think people are waking up, I think people are wanting to know more about this, and I think, um, I've run into people all the time, and the other day I met this lady that um has been doing this work for her whole life, her whole career, and I asked her something.

24:17 I said hey, are you coming to such and such event next week? And she was like no, I don't think so. And I looked at her and I go yeah, I'm not either. And I said I just thought I'd ask. And she said why aren't you going?

24:27 And I said I'm just not interested in anybody else's commentary right now. And she was like yeah, she goes, keep going, yedda, and she's much older and wiser than me. She goes, keep going, because you're really now, now you're in the place of wisdom. And when I say that, chase, what I mean is I don't need to go to an event and get 15 people to tell me what to do, like the audacity think about that, the amazing, unique, incredible human being that you are that we allow people to just walk up in our psyche and tell us all the things that are wrong. Imagine if you got together with a group of people and everybody contained and held their own beliefs and knew they were enough and didn't tell you anything, and you were able to have conversation and really share and grow from the perspective of hearing and being with other people, and you didn't have to fix them because you didn't fix yourself.

25:22 - Chase (Host) And you didn't have to fix them because you didn't fix yourself. You know, that's kind of this funny idea of the finish line of personal development. You know, maybe I'm speaking for myself.

25:34 - Yedda (Guest) They keep moving it Right.

25:37 - Chase (Host) Yeah, they keep moving it. But really once you cross that finish line and really truthfully in living a life ever forward, as I say, but just in bettering yourself and becoming more and realizing your potential and your capacity and your enoughness to your point, you never really stop. But there is kind of a point, and I think a lot of people can relate to, where you don't need as much doing. You don't need as much doing, and I think that's really hard for a lot of people to grasp on the beginning part of their journey, because it's like, oh, all of this is so novel, all of this is so meaningful and fulfilling, but also busy. It can also just be busy work. And so I think if I had to tell somebody at the beginning of their personal development journey now, hey, I'll just take me, for example, in 15 years you're not going to need any of this or finding the next guru, because you're going to realize that you can exist in just a state of being, that everything just comes from within, and you realize that you've had it all along and you know a lot of kind of the true but cliche kind of aspects of this. How can someone really begin with the end in mind on their personal development journey. If that's the end we're telling them awaits them. Hey, my friend, excuse me but I got to take a quick break to pay some bills here today. I hope you're enjoying the conversation with Yeda she is always welcome back on here the show.

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28:50 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, um, we, we can't because I don't think they listen. Somebody tried to tell me and I was like, oh, whatever, old man, you're crazy. You know I gotta, I gotta, get to the next workshop. And and I cause I, I mean I did I met some really wise people and you know, you, you've heard this story from me before, and whether your listeners have listened to some of the other episodes, but you know, when I went out right around, it might've been right after um, we did the episode together, the episode number nine, and I went out and I did what everybody does and I thought, well, if I'm going to really reach the mountaintop, I got to go find the guru on the mountaintop, I got to go study with him and go to his workshop.

29:28 And so for me, that was Deepak Chopra. I was going to go and I went with my mom. We and I was like we're doing a retreat out there and he's got this amazing spa. We're going to do all the things that Deepak does to get where Deepak got. And um, and so that was what I thought, because that's what we do when we think, well, how do I get what? Well, who, who already did it? Go, go talk to him. And um, and I went out there and I'll never forget Um, I was sitting with an arm distance of him for days and days and days, right in front of the. It was a. It wasn't even a stage, it was a room with a hundred people and a lady wanted to get her picture with him and he goes no cause, if I do it with you, I gotta do it with a hundred people, and I'm not doing that.

30:09 So the story is, I didn't know that I would call this wisdom at that moment. Looking back, it was and have you ever had a thought? And you know, the thought came to you. You didn't manufacture the thought, jason, okay, well, that's what happened. And so I didn't really I thought it was my thought, but it really wasn't. It was this little thought that just said go out the back door. And so I'm like oh, everybody's chasing him out the front door. You know like, and I'm just, I'm like I'm going to go out the back door, okay. And I see this little courtyard, it's a grassy area and there's a bench, and I just sit down and close my eyes and I'm just having one of those, you know, when you go to these workshops and you're like, okay, all right, universe, like I'm, I'm here, I'm ready. What's next?

30:53 - Chase (Host) I'm your conduit. Exactly yes, oh my.

30:56 - Yedda (Guest) God, I was in the star Wars. You know where is Yoda? Bring, bring Yoda, I am ready.

31:02 - Chase (Host) You know, look, luke is very real and I've been there and I was like I'm like okay.

31:10 - Yedda (Guest) And so I, um, was sitting there, and then I just heard open your eyes and I opened my eyes and there's this little bat door and here out walks Deepak, total empty courtyard in the back of this gorgeous building in California, gorgeous day. And I'm like, oh my God, there he is, so he's, I'm across, it's like a little square of grass in the middle of us. He starts walking one way and I start walking the other. The sidewalks converge and I, literally I said, oh my gosh, deepak. I said I'm really enjoying the workshop, thank you so much.

31:45 And it was right at a road, the edge of a road, and he said, well, I'm waiting for my car. And he just asked me a few brief questions. And then he said, well, I'm waiting for my car, and he just asked me a few brief questions. And then he said what do you do? Where do you live, you know? And I was like, well, let me tell you who I am. And I was on the cover of Style Magazine at home and I'm like the best entrepreneur there is on the East Coast and I own a medicine practice. It's all about integrative medicine and dah, dah, dah, dah. I'm like duh. He just goes what do you want? And I said you ready for the answer that I gave Deepak Chopra. I said I want the archetype of Athena.

32:27 - Chase (Host) Had you been thinking about that. I mean, who just comes up with that?

32:32 - Yedda (Guest) Somebody who's sitting out at a courtyard like, oh, I'm so elevated and I'm going this way, and because I was thinking Athena was wise, you know the statue of Athena and she's got her. You know her spear and her, her owl, and she's got like she's got it, going on.

32:48 - Chase (Host) I saw it all. I was just in Athens. Yeah, I know.

32:50 - Yedda (Guest) See. So I mean I was and I had never been to Greece. I didn't know. I just that was what I blurted out. And then this is what he says. He goes are you prepared for ignorance? That was his way, looking back, of doing to me what you just said You're not going to need any of this. And I remember looking at him, chase, going this guy's a total farce, he's an absolute lie, it's all smoke and mirrors. Who says that Are you ready for ignorance, whatever? And I left and I, oh, and here's what I did. Here's what I did after that you ready? I said.

33:31 I put my arm around his waist because, see back, then I knew how to charm the shit out of anybody. That was my sales tool. And I go I know you said no photos, but I won't kiss and tell if you don't, can I get a selfie real quick? And he's like sure, and I take the selfie. And he goes you should come back and study with us. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever, like crazy old man, whatever. And I leave and go inside and I sit down and everybody is like, oh, we didn't find him, we couldn't see him. I said nothing. I lean over and show my mom the picture. She's like what I'm like. I just totally spent 20 minutes with him arm in arm Like just I'll tell you later.

34:13 So that was my moment where someone said are you ready for ignorance? I came home, I closed a business, I sold a business, I lost a business, my marriage ended, my son got ready to go off to college and I was all alone and that was right about the time that we were doing the podcast episode. And now I look back and what he meant and I'm going to give a visual for your listeners on this, because it's part of the process If you choose to go this path, and I'm going to give a visual for your listeners on this because it's part of the process. If you choose to go this path and I think you've seen this for yourself and for so many people you've worked with is I love the metaphor of the chrysalis.

34:44 You know, the caterpillar goes in the cocoon and then everybody says and then it comes out as a butterfly. But what a lot of people don't know is when we go into that cocoon, the caterpillar completely, totally dissolves. It's just a big thing of goo, and so the idea that I think it keeps like three things I don't remember from my biology class. So somebody listening you can look that up. You can look it up, chase.

35:12 I think it might keep, like its stomach and its eyes, or I mean like, very, like, very few little things to survive, but the whole form, complete goo. And then it takes on a whole new form, which is the butterfly. And that's what happens, that's what the ignorance does, that's what we can consume and consume and consume. Ultimately, we have to let it all go if we're going to choose to go through to the metamorphosis of a different way of being, and I had, I went through that, I had to go through that, and so for me, that's how I like to think of you're not going to need any of this stuff because you can't take it in the cocoon with you and even if you do, 99% of it isn't going with you.

36:02 - Chase (Host) And then the beauty of all, that is, once you're in the cocoon, once the caterpillar, your example, is in the cocoon, there's nothing new that comes in for that transformation. No, it doesn't attract any new. I mean, maybe there's some like microbes or enzymes or whatever, but you know all the things, anything and everything it needs to become the next version of itself comes from within.

36:25 - Yedda (Guest) Exactly, exactly, and so that to me, is a very sacred, spiritual, unique process for every human being. And it's none of my business what you're doing in your cocoon, nor is it your business what I'm doing in mine, because it doesn't matter. And so I think the idea that there is a one size fits all personal development track, so to speak, is also what's breaking down, because what you need in your order, with your beliefs and your human psyche, and you know and shut up and sit. I mean I went all in on literally channeling and receiving and writing and creating a coaching manual and process that was customized to the individual, not the other way around, where you did what everybody else did. The science is the same, the steps and the questions are the same, but they're unique to you. And then that was where I started to go oh, this is really cool, I'm letting go of these limiting beliefs, I'm learning the science of how silence and stillness interrupts the thoughts, because a belief is just a thought you keep thinking to. You don't realize you're thinking it. So I had to wake up and become aware of, well, what am I thinking? And then, oh, if I don't want to think that, because it's not serving me or creating the belief that I where I want to go. I have to change it. So there's a lot of deep unconscious work, a lot of theta brainwave, which you mentioned, and it all works and it's really cool and honestly I thought, okay, I was just going to stay there.

38:04 And then somebody was like, well, okay, well, my clients were like, well, what do I do next? I'm like what do you mean? What do you do next? Like you're done, you're done with me, at least. And then now you know how to do it for you. And that's where the whole enough already. I just again I received that visual. I saw it in my mind. I saw the big old word enough, with already scribbled over it with an exclamation point which was like enough already. Like, stop the work, how do you go live? How do you go live?

38:31 So then that was much more of a process of people wanted to know what I did. I'm like I had a sense of humor. I started honoring who I was. I started speaking my truth, not in a manner to push people away, but to say this is who I am and where I begin and end. And you know it wasn't um, I've got boundaries, um, and you don't. It was just who am I living that question? You don't. It was just who am I living that question? And I think that's where we are hungry and where people who are going to continue to work with clients need to start to. First of all, they've got to do their work, like you, you've done, I've done, and then I think the next place is they've got to learn to every Zen master you ever see on any TV.

39:14 I watched what was the Bruce Lee movie? Oh, darn he's. I just read his daughter's book, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I read his daughter's book and she went back in her own struggle, in her own life, and reread all of his works, because she was only four when he died and wrote a book about his teachings. And there's a scene in that movie where he's following the Zen master and the Zen master's asking him all these you know questions and basically there is no sense of individuality or I and there is no enemy and it's all within us. And so the more you learn, I feel like, the less you do as you let go of it, because it becomes a part of who you are, and that's really what kind of led me to that book was what would life look like if I just woke up and there was no more trying?

40:11 - Chase (Host) Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can speak volumes and I could do a whole solo spinoff right here. From this point of when, when you, when you have that realization, when you kind of pause from all the work and all the personal development and all the things and you really take inventory of what got me here. More importantly, what do I need to keep me moving forward? It is that the most common truth of oh, it's me, I finally have arrived at me and I know who I am, I know who I am not, and I can keep that with me every day. I have truth in who I am, conviction in who I am, and all I need to do is keep being them.

40:59 - Yedda (Guest) Exactly. It used to drive me crazy when I would go to workshops and I would look around the room and I would be so disappointed and sad and disheartened that I wanted to just scream to everybody like you are enough and you don't. It's and I think I'm even hearing myself as I'm talking to you. I think the word is trying. There's no more trying. You can do all you want. I mean people who are doing this as the industry we're in. It doesn't mean you don't get up and take action.

41:29 I'm definitely an action oriented person, but my doing comes from the being now. It's not a trying to get to the place, to be somewhere or to be something, and so I think it's just that new belief of I'm not going to try anymore. I'm not going to plea people please improve. And I'm walking in a room with the belief I'm enough, in a room with the belief I'm enough and, like you just said, and everything that's in me is what I can refer back to. I don't need to carry the library in or have all the porters bring in all of my schematics and documents and information. I can literally just come in and if I don't know the answer, what I love about this is I can allow someone else to bring their wisdom into the room and have the answer, because that's the way it's supposed to be.

42:19 - Chase (Host) Oh, yes, like times a million. Oh, that's so beautiful.

42:23 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, cause we're all like you just said I can't do what you do, you can't do what I do. But what if we just learn to be like hey, I got to pass the ball now.

42:39 - Chase (Host) Yep, it'll come back around to you. Yep, yeah, and you know, speaking of, I know, a lot of your new work and kind of your own self-discovery is around, this being enough already, and I wonder if you could share you've got these three Ps if you could share the three Ps, um, enough already with the audience, what?

42:52 - Yedda (Guest) are they what?

42:52 - Chase (Host) do they mean? What do they look like? What do they feel like?

42:55 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah. So, um, one of the things that I I'm just, you know, talk about what we're all good at and I think I'm good at, and I know things I'm not good at. You don't want me cutting your hair, you don't want me managing the maintenance of your car. You don't want me doing anything deeply analytical on a spreadsheet. There are things I know that I'm like somebody out there is really good at that. One thing I'm really really, really good at is absorbing massive amounts of information and then synthesizing them down and working with teachers that do that too.

43:25 And so when I did this whole shut up and sit and really getting silent, there was so much information around mindfulness, around behavior change, around neuroplasticity. You know all like it's unbelievable what you could go into. And I thought so like what's the core teachings here? And one of my favorite favorite teachers, philip Davidson, who's a much, much older, wiser man than me, he kind of took me under his wing and he is a former investment banker who also does the same thing and starts to synthesize stuff. And then I was synthesizing it even more and there's something in mindfulness and he called it the three Ps and I thought, oh, what are they? And he said it's not perfect, it's not permanent and it's not personal, and those are the three Ps of the core teachings of mindfulness. And I was like man, wouldn't that be great to build a belief that that would be your go-to every time something happens in life.

44:21 And so the part about it it's not perfect, no one's perfect. Accepting ourselves and everyone else exactly as they are, that's I mean. If you do that, if you just did that one thing as they are, that's I mean. If you do that, if you just did that one thing, you imagine the grace we would give people. It's not perfect. And so when we accept the imperfection in ourself and other people, what happens is we believe that we're enough and they're enough just as they are. Everyone's operating from their own level of awareness. That's why you can't go out and force feed somebody to do what you're doing on your journey, because you don't know where they are and you have no idea what the place is for them and their journey of learning to accept themselves or someone else.

45:17 - Chase (Host) Passover, that I think the biggest realization and the biggest needle mover in our life and the game changer this is the game changer for personal development is when you have that thought but, more importantly, you step in to that belief and you fully own and believe I am enough. Yep, it comes with. It's a two for one. It comes with. They are enough as well.

45:34 - Yedda (Guest) Exactly.

45:35 If you can't give somebody something you don't have first, you're never going to walk around and go everyone else is enough, but I'm not. It doesn't work that way. It's like. It's like, if you are I mean think about people. I love to use money on this one If you believe you have enough money, then you will gladly give it to other people.

45:56 Wealthy people don't go around and talk about how wealthy everyone else is and they're not because they they. That's how belief works. You have to give that which you already are. But here's the cool thing but you never talk about what you already are, you just are it. It's not even in your conscious awareness.

46:15 So for me, I think that enoughness piece was I'm standing in line and the person in front of me is fumbling around and you know, and I'm late for something, and my, my go-to thought now is I have enough time, I have enough energy, I have enough patience, and I don't know what's going on with this person, and I don't know where they are, but they have enough too. And if I don't know what's going on with this person and I don't know where they are, but they have enough too and if I don't give them that moment of enoughness, what would happen, it wouldn't be kind, it wouldn't be loving. I don't know what's going on if they've just lost their job, or what's happened with their family or who knows, none of my business. So I think that first one it's not perfect is the most important one, and that starts the foundational belief of enoughness. The other one is it's not permanent. Hey look, life changes and the most recent research is wait 90 seconds on an emotion and it will begin to shift. Yeah, I've heard that before.

47:09 - Chase (Host) It seems so mundane, and so they're like there's no way this can be true, but try it. Yeah, it's very mundane, and so they're like there's no way this can be true, but try it. Yeah, it's very real.

47:14 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, set a timer for 90 seconds. So this idea that everything changes, including our struggles, everything changes. So it I know it's hard, and what I love about what I learned with mindfulness was and I can be with hard things I can be with hard things and maybe I touch it for 10 seconds and then I get distracted and maybe I touch it for 30 seconds and then I go do something else and you know, we talked about this recently in your group is the ego just needs something to focus on. It doesn't care if you give it crowns or whiskey or something in between, it just wants something to put its attention on.

47:57 And so for me, that's when I'm like you know what I can be with this, and I started leveraging my ego to say, hey, can you help me be with this, this pain or this difficulty right now? Don't get me off onto some rabbit hole because you distract me. Can you help me realize this is? It's going to go, it's going to get better, and if it doesn't get better, we can at least be with it for a few more seconds. And so then that one was really important for me, because you know I'm a perfectionist, you know, recovering perfectionist. I love to control things. I love everything to be perfect. I want it to never, ever, ever be anything different than how I'm manipulating it, and you know how exhausting that gets.

48:38 - Chase (Host) Oh very.

48:41 - Yedda (Guest) It's impossible. I mean, I walk around and look at people now and I just kind of smile and shake my head and I'm like, oh, bless them. You know, bless their little heart. That's a Southern saying but it is true. Like you know, you're just going to keep the struggle up until something gets your attention. It might be a breakdown in your health, your marriage, a relationship, the world at large, I don't know. And we live in a world here in the United States that we are so privileged that we get to even do the work when the wake up comes.

49:15 And then, lastly, it's not personal, and this one it was. Oh, this was so hard for me that other people's actions reflect their own state of mind and suffering, not our self-worth. And I will tell you this you go walk around the world and you start talking to people who do some really shitty, mean, painful things and you say, hey, hey, man, what's going on inside of you right now? Just, just, it's, just get past all that Cause, it's that's. That's the biggest coping mechanism we have as human beings is projection. If I can't be with my pain, I'm going to write a story that I'm a victim and someone did it to me and I don't want it. So the next person that crosses my path that does something, I'm going to just lose it and blow all of that over to them and then make them feel bad. And then you leave carrying someone else's shit and then you go dump it on's shit, and then you go dump it on the teller at the bank and then she goes home and dumps it on her kids trying to, you know, do their homework. And then you know, do you? I mean it's just this domino effect and I thought what if people's actions reflected their own emotional state, nothing more? And I got out of that way of the projection and I stopped making it about me.

50:40 And so those three P's are. Really it's a very synthesized version of a lot of deep, deep, deep trainings and mindfulness. And the truth is not everybody's going to go that deep and not everybody's going to go that long into it. And so I love my teacher. And then I thought is going to go that long into it, and so I love my my teacher. And then I thought I'm just going to make a worksheet out of this. If I can't put on one page how to build the belief of enoughness, nobody's going to want it. So those were the three P's that start and I've got a yeah, I've got a video on YouTube on that, but you know, it's. It's really clear. It's not perfect, it's not permanent, it's not personal. Is my checklist when someone is in front of me and they're just completely off the rails?

51:17 - Chase (Host) Well, let's keep this train rolling. I know you also have some other great, easy, easy. I don't want to downplay your work at all, but you know some some practical ways that we can lean more into this. Enoughness, so the three P's and also the five.

51:34 - Yedda (Guest) E's of enoughness, yeah.

51:35 - Chase (Host) Examine, escape, engage, ease and evolve.

51:38 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, and I'm happy to talk about that and, and, but I just want, here's what I want to, and and I want to remind you and your listeners what if it is that easy and that simple.

51:46 Yeah, touche I mean we, we want to make it this complex, intellectual, and I mean I will intellectualize the shit out of anything. And then it was like back to the cocoon, I'm not taking it all in with me. So what if all I get to take is the three Ps and the, you know, the five Es? What if it's really that simple? And the catharsis of reviewing and analyzing my suffering just allowed me to build the new belief that it could be simple and easy and fun.

52:19 - Chase (Host) You know that actually kind of in the spirit of that, in the spirit of what I even started this episode off talking about. You know, in the pursuit of more and more and more and more, we just land on the fundamentals and the truth of what already is and we are. So I'll tell you what I'm going, what I want to keep them wanting more. You have some new work, a new book, all this new content out. If you want to learn more about the five E's of enoughness, I would like to just let them follow up on that.

52:44 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, I'd be happy. Yeah, yeah, I trust your call on that one. It's really not that difficult. It's not rocket science, chase. I mean really, we make it difficult and that's part of the belief that we're not enough. I've got to be smart enough. I've got to be rich enough. I've got to be thin enough. I've got to be fit enough. I've got to have the right color. I've got to have the right religion.

53:08 - Chase (Host) You don't have to have any of it. Well, yeah, I mean, look at the world Maybe I see this more now just because I still kind of keep one foot in. But the health and fitness space, you know, years ago, health and fitness online, health and fitness content creation, social media, it was all you know. You need this regimen, this protocol, this periodization, this workout plan, this diet plan, and it was all so specific. And now it has come kind of full circle into a place to where, yeah, that still exists. And you'll hear people you know much wiser and smarter than me. You know I hear people like Peter Attia, andrew Huberman, mark Klein. You know all these people that you know have made it their profession at the doctorate and PhD level to break down and understand enzymes and the molecular level of everything. But ultimately, ultimately, even they all come back to you know, at the end of the day, just get quality consistently, drink water, move your body, have meaningful relationships.

54:04 - Yedda (Guest) I love Huberman. I mean, I love to nerd out over science. I love it. It's the coolest thing ever. And I'm not saying we shouldn't still do it. What I'm saying is what we need to do. In when we build a belief of enoughness, what happens is it allows us the ability to check in with ourselves and go does this have my name on it? Is it for me? And that's the part we've lost. It's a fine tune knowingness. And so, having been in the health and wellness industry too, for most of my career, you know I got sick last year. I haven't told anybody about this. I got really sick last November. I mean like I my my shoulders froze up and it like went down my arms. My hands started doing like pausing up. I couldn't walk my feet Like I was freaking out. I was in the emergency room. Nobody knew what was wrong with me. Um, they gave me Dilaudid. It didn't work, and if you're not in the world of knowing what that is, that's some heavy, heavy duty painkiller. I've never had it. It, man, it was.

55:05 - Chase (Host) I was awful form of morphine.

55:08 - Yedda (Guest) Oh man, they gave me a huge IV shot of it Didn't take the pain away, nobody could figure out what it was and, um, I mean, I was freaking out at my health and my fitness have always been my thing, like it's. It's like I wake up every day and jump out of bed. It literally I'm just now starting to be able to like open and close my hands and make a fist. I mean, I couldn't do any of that, and so my point being and this is really we're going off a different direction, but I want to bring it back to what you were just saying was everybody wanted to tell me what to do, and as they were trying to tell me what to do, I, I was like I can't, I have to listen to my own wisdom here. And so I love the science, I love listening to you know, huberman, I love Joe Dispenza, I love it all.

55:56 And yet my work, all my training, had led me to a place that I could sit down and go should I do red light bed therapy? And I would immediately get a knowingness in my body, because the intellect isn't going to take me all the way to the finish line. It was a knowingness that I could feel a sense of ease in the knowingness of my own soul, just speaking to me with my body going yeah, that feels like something to do, or no, I don't think so. I don't think that's got my name on it. No, I don't think so. I don't think that's got my name on it. And when we get to the place of discernment around stuff like that, we can still listen. I grabs me and I'm like Ooh, listen to that. I can do it when I'm talking to a person. I can do it when I'm it's a divine intervention.

57:02 It's totally that. It's the knowingness where I connect with all sources, awareness, and it goes right there, right there. So I started doing this work and then I started building that habit loop to keep listening to that knowingness. And so, whether you want to call that prayer, you want to call that divine intelligence, existence, universe, intuition, whatever you want to call it I think that's the next wave of where we're headed in our own development, is almost kind of democratizing spirituality, if you will, this energetic knowingness.

57:41 And then I'm like, yeah, somebody sent me a podcast. I listened to it and I went, oh man, that felt like out of 15 things, they said two of them. I was like I need to do that. I followed it. So flash, fast forward, not flash back.

57:55 And then fast forward, cause this November 13th will be one year I put together my own integrative health and healing plan that includes, oh yeah, naturopathic doctors, medical doctors, nutritionists, alternative health healers. I don't have a degree in all of those areas, but I listened to me and I'm like, yeah, I think I'm going to go try that anti-inflammatory IV Now. I did my research what's in it? What's the benefit? Should I do it? But the minute I start to get resistance.

58:26 And I was in an office the other day and the woman's like I think we should do this and this. And all of a sudden, the second thing she said, my whole being started to have a panic attack. And I looked at her and I go I don't, I don't want to do number two. I'll do number one, but I'm not going to do number two. I don't feel comfortable with that. Today, years ago, you know what I would have done. You know more than I do and I would have ignored my body's wisdom, trying to tell me by its anxiety, its physical symptoms, itsity. Our body is just the physical communicator of the thoughts.

58:57 - Chase (Host) Which I think a lot of people experience, that especially in just bare bones healthcare. But yet they extinguish that intuitive thought. They extinguish that feeling because who am I? They know so much more. But if you listen to your body, I think even no matter where you are in your personal development or health and fitness journey, there is a whisper. There is a whisper there that you hear it.

59:22 - Yedda (Guest) And that's where the enoughness for me came home all the way back to the body, because I felt like I was just a big old head walking around with all this knowledge and I had started in the health and wellness industry and my body it never failed me, ever. I mean, I was like, yeah, I mean that's just who I am, like this is, I'm always healthy, I'm always in good health and wellness, and I do know a lot about that. And when my body failed me, my first question was what are you trying to tell me? What are you trying to tell me? And I realized for years, even prior to doing Shut Up and Sit, I was disregarding who I was, what I wanted in my own enoughness at the expense of making everyone else happy and doing for them and just ignoring for me and my body. This is part of the work. And they talk about literally becoming goo.

01:00:16 My body, literally I couldn't walk, I couldn't stand up, I couldn't hold things. I had to ask for help like I've never done before. I had to rely on my own spiritual awareness, my own inner everything. And I remember thinking you know why is this happening? And instead of beating myself up, I said what wisdom is there here for me to learn? And so now, when somebody it happens all the time, somebody wants me to do something, I listened to that subtlety in my body and if it even gets the slightest little like resistance or tension, I'm like I can't do it, because if I do, I wake up the next day and my hands claw back up.

01:01:04 And so I really got to a place where I was like, yeah, this is no joke when you want to change a belief. Even my body said, cause I made the commitment, I wanted to go all the way. I wasn't stopping, no more pit stops, no more lookouts, no more photos of the scenery on my personal spiritual development journey. I was like I just just keep me going, take me as far as I need to go. And so my body had to be a part of this new rewiring, to learn to go. Well, what do I want to do today? Do I want to ride a bike? Do I want to lift weights? Do I want to do yoga? Is it a rest day? And before I would have done one of those regimens that you were like it's got to be like this and tell my body you got to adapt to what I want, instead of me adapting to what you want.

01:01:43 - Chase (Host) Oh, it's so good.

01:01:45 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, and it's scary as hell when your body starts to fail you.

01:01:52 - Chase (Host) But it was just trying to get my attention Especially after the fact of, like, all the work that you've done. Yeah, you know I'm raising my hand here as well. You know this year has not been easy for a lot of different reasons and areas of my health have been a part of that. And you know, at first, you know there's that ego word again it's. You know, how could this be happening to me? You know I'm so healthy, I put in so many years and literally so many reps. You should have called me because I would have been like, yeah, join the club.

01:02:21 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, I said that to a doctor. I go this. People like me don't. This doesn't happen to people like me. Nope. He's like do you think you have an autoimmune disease? I'm like be gone, satan. What did you just say to me?

01:02:32 - Chase (Host) I've never been insulted in my life.

01:02:35 - Yedda (Guest) What I was. I was mortified, yeah yeah. So you know what I'm talking about. You get into that place. So when, when our body starts to communicate to us Chase, then that means we're going deeper into the belief, because it lives in our tissues, it's in our DNA. I love I mean Joe Dispenza is one of my favorite teachers on this I literally used chat GPT to design a guided imagery, using the five molecules of the immune response reaction that I needed to increase in my body in a specific order, to get my immune system back on track and listen to it every day.

01:03:15 Because of a talk he did. I didn't do his meditation, but I'm like, well, I'm going to go to chat GPT. I dictated the molecules, in what order, what levels I needed them to be at my body and could it create a guided imagery, skip script that I could listen to for self-hypnosis, for my own health and healing. I mean, that's the age that we're at right now. I mean, if you're not leveraging AI and then going out and listening to what other people are doing and go, well, what does that mean to me? And now, how do I convert that into my own formula? I think we're missing it.

01:03:49 I've listened to Huberman hydrogen water I'm like, yep, I'm going to go buy the device. I'm going to buy it because it was like the ping just hit me. I won't go anywhere now without drinking my hydrogen water. If I told you where I was health-wise and what they wanted to do, and where I'm at now, almost a year later, and what I did to get here, they'd blow you away. And it was because I listened to my own wisdom. I didn't know anything about hydrogen water, but I listened to it and the little radar went ding, ding, ding, ding. And I'm like, all right, let me do that. Let me add that. And as I started following, I started eating cafeteria style from what I was hearing. And so when you're in a place of your own question Chase, or your listeners are, and your body is starting to break down or fail you, or the communication is starting to get choppy or weird between your mind and your body, listen to it and ask what do you need?

01:04:47 - Chase (Host) Well, I feel like it's probably going to roll right into this last question, but you know for the fourth time yet, what does ever forward mean to you, If? You now where you are in your life, had to describe how you live a life ever forward. What you, If you, now where you are in your life, had to describe how you live a life ever forward? What would that look like? What does it feel like? How would you describe that?

01:05:05 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, ever forward. That's great, cause I have. I've I've been asked the question several times. I know the story about it. What does ever forward look like for me now? Ever forward look like for me now, I would have to say it's being completely and totally and radically present to what is right here. And when I'm in that presence and I'm accepting that everything right here is enough, the momentum of that is what pulls and keeps pulling me forward and it's building that belief system that in this moment there's enough and that that's the momentum that's spinning around, that is calling me ever forward. There's enough right here. There's enough right here because I love the word forward. If I get too forward thinking, I lose the presence and the power that right here, right here, right now, my body's in optimal health and healing. I can do whatever is required. When I'm present, my body feels great. The minute I start going backwards or too far in the future, my body starts to communicate to me now and I'm like, oh shit, I'm not being present.

01:06:19 - Chase (Host) So being ever forward, I don't think you're the only one.

01:06:21 - Yedda (Guest) What's that?

01:06:22 - Chase (Host) I don't think you're the only one. I think you're just voicing that feeling that many of us shun.

01:06:27 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, exactly. And so for me, the ever forward, living ever forward is, yeah, just as a constant narrative in my head that says right now, I have enough of everything, I have enough choices, I have enough ideas, I have enough fresh air, I have enough connection, I got enough roof over my head, I've got opportunities. My body, I mean think about all the things that are happening, that are going well. And for me, living a life ever forward is staying in a place of presence and gratitude and appreciation for what is right here, and the minute I get too far out in front of myself or behind myself, I get disconnected, and the dissonance is what causes the disease.

01:07:07 - Chase (Host) Yeah, Well, you everyone listening, watching you have to go back. Actually, I don't, I don't know, maybe don't go back to episode nine.

01:07:17 - Yedda (Guest) I should go back to it because, I mean, God only knows. Well, you know what. There was wisdom there, it was the, it was the awareness that I was at um at that point in time.

01:07:27 - Chase (Host) Technical aspect, because I was. I had this teeny, tiny little microphone.

01:07:32 - Yedda (Guest) I was using $39 or something from like I was fixing.

01:07:38 - Chase (Host) I was figuring it all out, but you know, from episode nine to now, as we're talking, this week eight, episode 834 went live. So you know what.

01:07:46 - Yedda (Guest) And didn't I interview you on one of them? You know what I think I think I interviewed you on. Was it your episode 100? Now it's all coming back to me. I interviewed you on an episode too. I think you're right.

01:08:01 - Chase (Host) I'm going to have to do my research on the number and I'll link that one.

01:08:05 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, I mean it's all good stuff. You know. Here's what I want want everyone to just take away from it. You know you're talking about ever forward and you know when we started I showed you my my children's book that just dropped um, the tale of Billy the dog on Bagby. Which, my children's book that just dropped the Tale of Billy Badog on Bagby, which don't even get me started. If you're not from the South, don't make fun of it. It was a name my grandfather made up in a story when I was a kid and the idea of being so present, and now I get it.

01:08:28 I used to quote all the time why Einstein would always say if you want to be smarter, read more fairy tales. He would always say that and I loved that quote and I used it and I thought I was being so intellectual. And the truth is I printed a copy of, or I ordered a copy of, my own book and it got here and I sat down and read it and I thought the magic and the power of presence and imagination and creativity that we have when we're little is so important. So I feel like I went all the way in through the ethers of all this. Shut up and sit, and enough already in science and spirituality and structure and all the symphony of how it all works.

01:09:06 To finally come back to another way of me explaining living ever forward is, in that presence, just being so playful and just letting go. I mean, you know what, sometimes I dance now for exercise. I mean, nobody watches, thank God. But you know, I'm like, I'm just. Well, what would it look like if I move my body in a way that would be playful and fun instead of, you know, so rigid? And that's what my body needs. It wants more play. And so, for me, living ever forward is also getting back to the power of play and creativity and imagination. That's really what happens when you think there's enough.

01:09:44 - Chase (Host) Yeah, Well, besides all the other amazing episodes and all of your new work, which I'll have in the show notes and video notes for everybody, where can they go to? Like, plug into your world, connect with you.

01:09:54 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah. So you know it's really cool since we've last talked and, um, I was in the you know, major content creation. I had all the podcast episodes, the books, the workbooks, the coaching, everything and I was really getting frustrated. And you know, for the listeners that are out there, I've I've done so many interviews and it's like when is it ever going to happen? When's it going to happen? You know, I I want the archetype of Athena. When's it going to happen? I told you, I'm like why hasn't Oprah called when? Where's all the? And the truth is I got so burnout and frustrated that I had stopped asking the question, which is actually where you were when you started Ever Forward, which was I'm not serving something greater than myself, I'm serving me. So I started asking the question how do I serve something greater than myself?

01:10:40 And so about I guess a decade ago when I started this journey, I used to go to the inner work center here in Richmond, virginia, and I used to do a lot of their keen. I'd attend their keynotes, their workshops, my mindfulness teacher One of them is from there, the one that helped with the acronym I shared the three Ps and I was really studying from some really wise people and with some really wise people there. And so about five months ago, the board of directors reached out and said we, our executive director has retired and we would love for you to come and run the organization. And at first I was like run the organization, what are you talking about? Like I've, I'm doing my own thing. And then I really I heard that you know that ping hit me and it was like no, this is where you're going. And I went and met with them and they have over 30 facilitators on staff. It's a 30 year old nonprofit called the inner work center and they needed a process of how to teach 30 facilitators to create all the content I had learned to create for me Online classes, courses, podcast, everything. And here I was toiling away creating all my stuff and like why isn't it clicking? Why isn't it clicking? It was clicking. I mean, I was making a really nice living, but it wasn't really exploding. And now so I said yes.

01:11:56 So now I am the executive director of the inner work center. We have over 30 facilitators, we're launching a new podcast, we are launching an online classroom with some of the most amazing content you've ever seen, and we have a facility physical facility. We're actually doing an interfaith panel tomorrow night talking about the common ground of inner work, and how do we? I mean it's just, oh my gosh. So you know they can go to sitwithyettacom and they can check out me and all my work, and you know that's cool stuff. I love it. Don't get me wrong, go go check out the resources.

01:12:25 However, I'm moving the brand of sit with Yedda under the umbrella of the inner work center and now I get to work with 30 plus facilitators and show them how to do what I've done and imagine the outreach of how many people we can work with. And I go back to that wisdom collectively I can't do it all, learn it all, know it all. And I now get to work every day with people who are saying I want to get out there and help people and I've got my little, my little morsel, my little portion of the canvas to paint. So if we all kind of show up and do that paint by numbers and we're all putting our little bit of paint on the canvas, we make a much more beautiful picture than if I've got to sit and do it all by myself. So innerworkcenterorg is another website you can put on the show notes and folks can go check that out.

01:13:11 If they live local, they can come visit us. If not, you can get our online community on the website. Get, if not, you can get our online community on the website. Get on our platform and start learning from us at a with a dis, or learning with us from a distance and um, yeah, it's, it's really cool. I'm so excited. So I feel like I've finally found my little um, you know, vein of gold. Like you did, you knew you were going ever forward, sit with, yet and never really it didn't have that magic. I loved creating the content but man, my eyes light up now when I'm like come on over to the inner work center, either online or in person, and look, it's unbelievable the people that you could learn from there.

01:13:49 - Chase (Host) Yeah, Well, next time I'm in town and. I'm due for a trip back home.

01:13:52 - Yedda (Guest) I've got to check it out.

01:13:54 - Chase (Host) I'll come see you.

01:13:55 - Yedda (Guest) Yeah, yeah. I just recorded an episode last week on grief in the brain with one of the facilitators. I mean, you know, you do this all the time with people and I was like, oh man, there's so much, there's so much wisdom out there. We just got to get it out there and we've got to get people your listeners I really hope you all hear this We've got to get people to realize. You get to say which part of it you want. It's a very cafeteria style. We've got to get people to start realizing don't be Yedda, don't be Chase, don't be anyone else. Be you and learn to trust yourself that what is for you you want and what isn't. You get to say no, thank you. You do it all the time when you put food on your plate, why wouldn't you do it when you feed your own soul? No, thank you. That's not for me. I don't prefer that. I think I'll take this over there.

01:14:45 - Chase (Host) I'm with you, I'm with you and um yet, it's always a pleasure talking with you. Thank you for your time. Thank you for coming on last week to the Everford mentorship group call. And you know, like you do, you know every year, you year you're uh, every annually you come back to that group and kind of drop your wisdom into the mentorship group. And now here we are again number four I guess technically number five with the, the microphone flip, you interviewing me um, so it's just, I'd forgotten all about that, yeah yeah, I mean you're you're just.

01:15:16 I keep coming back to you because you were so instrumental to my personal development to kind of bring it full circle and um, as someone that I just admire, who just stays true to herself, and the evolution of what that looks like and feels like, and I love, I love where you're at and I love where I know you're going to be next time we connect as well.

01:15:34 - Yedda (Guest) I can't wait and, yeah, so the wisdom is there for all of us. There is enough wisdom too, and I learn from you every time I talk and as I watch you live your life, and I see all the great things that are happening for you, and we should be cheering for each other. Yeah, so I'm excited. I'm going to send you a copy of the children's book. You might need that sometime in the near future. Yeah, so, uh, so you'll have that, and who knows where life is going to take us. All I know is it's an exciting ride and I and honestly, I now go. Yeah, yeah, I went through the ignorance. I still know that there's times of ignorance, but now that archetype of Athena, that wisdom, I did get it. I definitely got it, and I get it every time. I help everybody else get it too.

01:16:20 - Chase (Host) Thank you as always and um, that'll be a wrap for for this go around for 2024. We'll see you in 356 more episodes.