"If I had the world’s greatest resume but did not believe in myself, I’m gonna fail. With a weak resume but a deep belief in my ultimate ability to get this done, even if I was going to screw up along the way, that is far more important."

John Bacon

John Bacon is a public speaker, college instructor, and the New York Times Bestselling Author of the uplifting leadership book, Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America's Worst High School Hockey Team. 

Believe it or not, John himself was once known as the worst player in America’s worst high school hockey team. He later became the head coach of that team and helped transform them into one of the best in just three seasons.

In this discussion, John and Chase uncover the leadership qualities and strategies that make great leaders, as well as how he navigates the bounds of leadership. John sheds light on how to get others to believe in you, how to empower your team to lead themselves, and the top lessons he’s learned from his unique leadership journey.

Follow John @johnubacon

Follow Chase on Instagram @chase_chewning

Follow him on Twitter @chasechewning

Key Highlights

  • John learned that having a malleable structure in your team and in your leadership style allows for components of the team to fall into place and for team members to find their calling.

  • Your belief in yourself determines your achievement in life. Believe in yourself and you will get it done. 

  • There are two things that leaders always have to do: work hard and ask for help. Be the dumbest person in the room, always take notes, and consistently try new things.

  • You can’t motivate or be a teammate to anyone you don’t know, so as a leader, you must get to know the people you’re trying to lead. Get on their level, build trust, and stay connected.

  • The most poisonous part about corporate America is the mundanity. If you switch things up and make work exciting, different, and challenging, production and motivation will increase.

  • Leaders make mistakes! Great leaders work with their team to learn from their mistakes and find ways to improve moving forward.

Powerful Quotes by John Bacon

If I had the world’s greatest resume but did not believe in myself, I’m gonna fail. With a weak resume but a deep belief in my ultimate ability to get this done, even if I was going to screw up along the way, that is far more important.

The easiest way to make it special is to make it hard. 

When in doubt, absolutely mix it up and how do you mix it up? Give them more, not less, responsibility. They’ll get excited about it.

Put values before victories or principals before profits.

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EFR 555: How to Lead Yourself and Even the Worst Teams (and Turn Them Into the Best) with John Bacon

John Bacon is a public speaker, college instructor, and the New York Times Bestselling Author of the uplifting leadership book, Let Them Lead: Unexpected Lessons in Leadership from America's Worst High School Hockey Team. 

Believe it or not, John himself was once known as the worst player in America’s worst high school hockey team. He later became the head coach of that team and helped transform them into one of the best in just three seasons.

In this discussion, John and Chase uncover the leadership qualities and strategies that make great leaders, as well as how he navigates the bounds of leadership. John sheds light on how to get others to believe in you, how to empower your team to lead themselves, and the top lessons he’s learned from his unique leadership journey.

Follow John @johnubacon

Follow Chase on Instagram @chase_chewning

Follow him on Twitter @chasechewning

Key Highlights

  • John learned that having a malleable structure in your team and in your leadership style allows for components of the team to fall into place and for team members to find their calling.

  • Your belief in yourself determines your achievement in life. Believe in yourself and you will get it done. 

  • There are two things that leaders always have to do: work hard and ask for help. Be the dumbest person in the room, always take notes, and consistently try new things.

  • You can’t motivate or be a teammate to anyone you don’t know, so as a leader, you must get to know the people you’re trying to lead. Get on their level, build trust, and stay connected.

  • The most poisonous part about corporate America is the mundanity. If you switch things up and make work exciting, different, and challenging, production and motivation will increase.

  • Leaders make mistakes! Great leaders work with their team to learn from their mistakes and find ways to improve moving forward.

Powerful Quotes by John Bacon

If I had the world’s greatest resume but did not believe in myself, I’m gonna fail. With a weak resume but a deep belief in my ultimate ability to get this done, even if I was going to screw up along the way, that is far more important.

The easiest way to make it special is to make it hard. 

When in doubt, absolutely mix it up and how do you mix it up? Give them more, not less, responsibility. They’ll get excited about it.

Put values before victories or principals before profits.

Episode Resources:


Ever Forward Radio is brought to you by Hero Loan

At Hero Loan, we know no one has done more for this country than our Veterans and active duty military -- and we want to give our nation's heroes a token of our appreciation.

That's why, from now until Christmas (12/25), we'll pay for your VA loan appraisal and give you a $500 gift card at closing when you close any VA loan with us. It's our gift to you!

This offer applies to both purchase loans and refinances-- so whether you're buying your first home, shopping for a lower rate, or looking to take out some cash equity we've got you covered.

CLICK HERE to visit HeroLoan.com and for your chance at $500!