EFR 531: Taking Charge of Your Health Through Social Self-Care and Ancient Wellness Practices With a Modern Touch with Dr. Jonathan Leary

Chase: Welcome to the show my friends, I'm your host Chase Chewning and today I am joined by my new friend, the homie, the pioneer in what has been called social self-care. The founder owner of Remedy Place here in Los Angeles, we're going to be talking about all the ways to take charge of your health through social self-care. I love this concept. And Dr. Leary breaks down exactly what he means by how we can prosper and grow and heal and become more well individually through modalities and connections with our community, our peers and those around us. Jonathan is the founder and CEO of Remedy Place, like I said, and this center is the world's first social wellness club dedicated to bringing guests back into balance through social self-care. I can speak personally to the wonders to the aesthetics to the healing properties, the hot and cold healing properties that Remedy plays has to offer. I've been going there for months and months now I think even pushing about a year ever since they opened back up during the pandemic. And it's where I go for IV drips cryo therapy, infrared sauna, and well there are so many other things that I have yet to tap into because, well, this place just has so much to offer. And I just I just got to find time I got to find time to get my Remedy on you're going to hear how Jonathan opened Remedy Place back in January of 2020, just two months before the world temporarily shut down. He and Remedy Place have had to adapt to the changes and healthcare skepticism that come along with this type of pandemic. And as truly a pioneer in the concierge wellness space. Jonathan has a really, truly refreshing perspective on healthcare. He poses the questions. What if we were open to trying new things and trusting ourselves when it came to our health and wellness? I mean, after all, our body does have an innate ability to heal itself. Right? Would you agree? I personally think so given the right conditions, the right external and internal stimuli and environments and variables. The body wants homeostasis. And in fact, I think it wants a little bit more I think I think it wants to thrive. So listen in in today's interview for an eye opening discussion on the power of social self-care what that even means and how Remedy plays is catalyzing cutting edge innovation in the healthcare industry, bringing Old World modalities these techniques have been used hundreds and 1000s of years ago, bringing them into the 21st century and beyond with a nice little modern touch. Welcome to Ever Forward Radio. This is Dr. Jonathan Leary. Back in Remedy Place. Jonathan so good to be here. Thank you for having me, man.

Dr. Leary: Thank you for having me.

Chase: This place I just got to tell for all of you who are listening watching is The first time I walked in here, I was like, wow, just the aesthetics of everything, the feel of it, because I came in like a lot of people do, seeking improvement for their mind, body and soul health and wellness, recovery, drip therapy, cryo, IR sauna, but just immediately walking into a place like this, you just know that you're in the right place for that. Can you give us a quick little breakdown on the aesthetic of wellness?

Dr. Leary: Yeah, well, here's the thing. When I think of aesthetic, I think of environment. And when I think of environment, I think of that as an integral part of our healing process. You know, so I like to say that we're designed to heal, you know, the club is to create a setting that will maximize your healing potential and help maximize whatever you're doing in the space that day. You know, I think from a clinical setting, when people go into a hospital or a clinic, there's a thing called White Coat syndrome. You know, people are scared, you know, it's scary thing to go into these places where you're scared to know like, is there something wrong with me or this is because of an emergency, or I'm not feeling good, and your guards up. And what I was an accidental finding of my practice before Remedy. I was just a concierge doctors, I was doing house calls or traveling tour with my patients. And you know, when someone lets you in their home, their guards down there in their comfort zone. But it and they also trusted me more like if someone wants you in their home. They trust you. This is a lot. It says a lot. So I think what I found, you know, my practice was very different for many reasons. But I think one of the main reasons why I had so much success in my recovery process was because I was at their home. Well, you know, and think like, if an average doctor visit in America's eight minutes, good luck calming someone down when they feel anxious, or uncomfortable, and eight minutes, good luck building trust, and eight minutes, especially when you're dealing with pain, or like surgery prevention, someone's already in some much, like, so uncomfortable. It's kind of wild. So like for them to be at their home. And then their safe zone, it just, it allowed them to have their guard down faster. So allowed me to get more of a breakthrough within the treatment faster. So the whole part of the club behind the front, you know, the lobby, and the bar is made to look like a home? Because I found in my practice that and you know, that's where people maximally heal and recover. And I don't want white coat syndrome, I want the exact opposite. And then, you know, when we're asking people, we can go into Remedy plays and the whole purpose. But you know, we're trying to create an environment that enhances their health and their social life at the same time. So it's not like a spa, where you go and isolate yourself in every room, you know, everything here you're supposed to do together, you know, it's what we call social self-care. We kind of coined this term, right? Now it's bringing human connection back into the healing. But if I'm saying, hey, let's substitute where you bring a date, or where you meet your buddies after work, or where you go, instead of a brunch on Sunday, or your birthday or corporate outing, it's not too much of a juxtaposition. If I say, hey, let's meet at the Remedy bar verse, the bar at the addition, you know, we're not serving alcohol, but the fundamentals of sitting at a bar and having a drink, whether it's alcohol or not, isn't too much of a change. So I thought, you know, from a psychological perspective, really, how can we make it a simple transition when we're just substituting the environment for where they're socializing?

Chase: I love how you have that kind of framework to the end goal you're after. And what you're talking about is just the fundamentals of behavior change. It's what are people already doing that we can kind of stealthily you know, Ninja slide some a better action or just a different option that is more incongruent with the goals that they want, or you're working together on to achieve? 

Dr. Leary: you have to make it simple, you know, like, if introducing self-care to the world as a non like, luxury or something that isn't something that you do occasionally, and something that I want people to do every day, you have to make a simplistic change that makes sense, right off, like, I'm like, hey, let's do a cryo meeting, instead of having a coffee at a coffee shop. Or instead of, you know, expensive a steak dinner and a bottle of wine. Let's get IVs and talk business. It's crazy enough where it like, makes people laugh, but it's not crazy enough people like oh, look, I do want to do that. You know, it's, and that's really like, I spent so much time not only on what's here in the science, behind our treatments in the like, how it's designed, but also like, how can we make these shifts in people's lives? And what's that psychological perspective of understanding psychology, and then finding ways to make people understand it? And we had a meeting were brought to bring on this new this new team on new part to our team in he's like, Jonathan, the best compliment I can tell you is that you've created something so original, but also so simple. And he's like, that is the key to something that is going to be really big and he goes, I don't want you to take that the wrong way goes, this is the biggest compliment I could ever give you. And he's this huge, huge marketer, he was a former CMO for a really big company that just sold. And he's like, this is something And that was it was kind of cool. And it's right. It's like, trying to make it simple, trying to make anything simple as the hardest thing. And I think simplicity is the key to happiness, if you can also build a company that's original and simple, but then also make it simple for people to understand. Because education is everything, especially when we're trying to build new habits.

Chase: Simplicity is not exactly the hand you were dealt this last year and a half. The world was not given a simple deck. So how did you forge through? How did you push through this anti simplicity? hand when what you were after was helping healing? And especially in a social way? 

Dr. Leary: that was a big component taken out, you know, it's, it's, it was a really scary thing. You know, I'm being fully transparent. You know, I, I spent nine years working on this concept, you know, and like nine years, I started my business plan, I would work every Sunday through my doctorate on like, building out this, I couldn't, there's a whole other story. I couldn't open revenue when I graduated because I had no money. I thought you could just get a business loan. Did not, it was not that easy. Had a practice for five years, added five more years of clinical evidence. And just like market research, what am I patients want, what is the industry need, all of that went into the business concept. But I finally opened January, right before the pandemic, and January 2020 and then March came around, you know, I had two months of the most, every dream was just coming true. We were busy. The people reaching out every person I wanted to talk to within like, the next five years business wise, we were having meetings with, I was we were flying all over the country, it was just this crazy thing. And I was like, wow, like, this is about to explode. And then, you know, when I saw, you know, hey, you're going to close for two weeks? I was like, oh, no, we can't do this. 

Chase: it did explode, just not in the way you were hoping. 

Dr. Leary: I mean, granted, like, those conversations still kept going. But you know, as a new business owner, like my practice was just me. You know, now I had a team, you know, I, I care for my patients, I care for my family, my friends, and I'm always I'm more like, I'm a caregiver. But now I had a responsibility for all these people that I hired, you know, and all of a sudden, you know, you have all these emotions that are also really scared. And you're like, what are we going to do? Is the company gonna be okay? What about my, my career? And it was, is a really difficult thing for me, because it's the first time that I had to, like, really, their lives in a way were like, in my hand, you know, and I, and I was like, I don't want to let them down. Like, this is my first team. And also, you know, we were about to open a raise, we had verbal commitments, we were going through legal stages, I thought all this money was coming in for our expansion, so that we started overspending those first two months. I don't know if this is TMI. But, you know, like we were, we were preparing for this next version of Remedy. And luckily, we didn't get through the leases that we were about to sign. But then we had this money going out the door, and you know, to have a lease on Sunset and a team of salaries. It's no small feat. And then you realize, like, okay, it's not two weeks, so it's gonna be a couple months. And then oh, wait, we didn't get our first round of RSP. This this loan is SBA loan. And it's like, oh, no, like, eventually you run out of money, you know, so it was having the emotions of my team and making sure that they were okay. Understanding, like, what do I need to do right now? Like, what do I have to sacrifice? What is? What's my plan B? Because if we don't get this loan, we don't get this governmental relief? Like, how do I make sure everyone's Okay, and how do I make sure Remedy keeps going? So yeah, so that was crazy. And wild, but, you know, it is definitely a couple hard months, figured it out. We eventually got help with that loan, which definitely helped push us over. You know, we closed for three months ish. You know, to make sure the team was safe, make sure every guest that walked in was safe. That was our number one priority. We didn't have to close we, you know, we, under my license, we were an essential business. You say aren't your essential? Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't know like we don't we didn't know anything about it. And I didn't want to compromise anyone's health. So we did the right thing and closed. And then when we reopen, we were like, oh, we're open a couple days a week for a couple hours just to see if people come in. And I think it was when July came around, we opened back up most days for a couple hours. And people just started flooding back in, you know, we were only able to do 20% utilization of the treatments at any given time because it was a tricky gray area, you know, it wasn't that we probably could have done more. But also, like, I, there's no point to be greedy and have this place full. So we stopped all of our classes, stop the bar and lounge, stop all of our events, corporate outings, all of these big things that we were doing. Mostly all the social things, you know, like, like, oh, we're this social wellness club, like, it's like, we were like, we're not a social wellness club, we're back to just being a wellness club. And it was interesting. But we've like I was telling you before, we just learned so much, and it slowed us down, it allowed me to work on myself growth, it allowed me a lot more time to figure out all the things that are going to be major, major benefits of the company in the future, because I had so much time and the team and so much time to really rethink through a lot of these processes and just prepare us and I think society now people understand, you know, how important their health is, and that they're in control of their health and like, your body and your mind is your number one asset? And I think, you know, granted, all this all is happening, like before my practice, I saw this trend to understand, like, self-care, I don't usually use the word recovery, I think people have that negative connotation. So I really like to say, like preventative care, self-care is a growing trend there. And specifically on the holistic side of healthcare, huge growing trend, and I just saw it like, this is gonna this next 10-20-30 years is going to explode. And I think the rocket ship that was gonna inevitably already happen in this industry, this pandemic just pushed it way further. So it's exciting. I really think I'm like, wow, you know, there's a reason for everything, of course, you know, university good reason to Yeah, universally, whatever that reason is, it was good for me. You know, it was good for the business. It was good for society. I think it's, I mean, society in a way that I mean, like, it's a wake up, you know, every day I see patients, and, you know, I don't take my health for granted, I don't treat my body poorly, because I have patients that would give up everything in their life to have good health. And for me, I've always had this, it's in my face every day. Like, why would you mistreat your body? Why aren't you taking care of yourself, because, like I said, I'm so grateful that I can move, I can breathe, I can see that I don't have these chronic issues. You know, I think the pandemic is that for the world of like, wow, I lost someone that was really special to me, or, you know, like I had, this really destroyed me for a couple weeks, or, you know, like, I'm still not the same. And it's like, now, indirectly, when we're looking at the positive of it, it's like, I think it's time that I really start looking at my health.

Chase: Was there ever a moment when that wasn't your philosophy? Was there? a catalytic moment wasn't an injury wasn't a loss? 

Dr. Leary: it's just weird thing. I've always been in the health and wellness industry. You know, starting when I was 17 or 18, I started training people. I was always just really fascinated about the human body. I think. Actually no, I think when I started working on cadavers, in interested in school, I was so fascinated with the human body and understanding like the cause of death, and then dissecting all these bodies where I was like, looking at their insides, based on the trauma, or being an alcoholic, or having diabetes, and like, you got to see that. Because I think what people don't see is, you can look like a Victoria's Secret model. So it's called time or a pro athlete can be so toxic on the inside. And yes, if you're on the opposite spectrum, and you're, you know, overweight, obviously, there's gonna be things that are happening inside. But it was a real wake up call because I was we I mean through college, everyone, you know, has a little fun, a lot of fun, a lot of fun, for sure. But seeing just like people, I think the one big thing that I noticed was like, average, like people that drank a lot are alcoholics or just people that you have their whole medical profile there. And just looking at their livers and seeing how disgusting. And I just remember being like, we don't see anything that's happening inside of us. And it's so sad and so scary at the same time,

Chase: Most people, it's like, air filter in our car, you know, when you take it out.

Dr. Leary: Yeah, we get it all the time, but most people will never see it. And I was too late until it's too late. And I think what I like to tell people is, you know, when you see all these college kids or young kids that just eat pizza drinking every day, and they're like, they have a six pack or they look perfect. And all of a sudden, 10 years later that that they don't look like that metabolic damage and it's not like oh, when you hit 30, you're all of a sudden, going downhill. It's kind of funny. So I'm like, I think it takes at least 10 years to show that external damage of the internal damage that you're creating through your younger age, I believe and that's not through like clinical evidence. I think it's just like from my perspective, understanding an external thing. takes a long time. And when it doesn't take a long time and we see like our skin breakout or we see being lethargic. Like that is like we know, so fast the body is so smart. We're so intuitive, like our body's telling you, hey, something's not right. And then it's our job not to like ignore it. It's our job to listen to it.

Chase: It's interesting you bring that up, I was actually just asked the other day, a friend of mine online, was bringing I posted something about, I was talking about harmonize water, structured water, and like the immune system of the home, is a new thing. I'm kind of working on just understanding so much more about what's going on in my home environment in terms of my water, the chemicals, all these other things. And I posted up something about it. And where do you source your information? Like, how do you vet the information? And for me, I was like, Well, actually, it's a really interesting question. And I kind of give them three quick replies, I'm curious if this is a similar process for you. As well, I said, One, I did it professionally for many years, I have higher education, undergrad, grad school, you know, I was in the health and wellness world for many, many years. So I have my kind of professional aspect. Two personally, I just, I, I'm in my mid 30s now, and I've gone through life, I've gone through injury, I've gone through a lot of different things. And my wellness journey is about 15 years now. So I have a lot of personal experience of self-test and equals one kind of stuff. And then third was I honestly then look to my peers, who are the people like you like who are people that I trust, and I've been watching and reading and following for a while, that I know do as much, if not even more of that homework research, due diligence and their clinical experience and professional experience. You said, you know, you don't have this clinical evidence kind of backup this statement, but you do have a lot of school, we have a personal experience on functional medicine. Where do you source?

Dr. Leary: It's my thing. This is controversial, but mine's very similar to yours. I, it's hard for me to really dive too much into research. or read, reviews or looking like listening to someone else's perspective. You know, research is tough. You know, it's like who's funding it, you know, who's putting it on. Everything can be biased, everything can be skewed. You know, there's safety mechanisms and a lot of research, but it's also I don't know, like, we also are told certain things are true. And then five or 10 years later, we find out that it was false. You know, science is such an interesting thing that it changes hypotheses, it's an educated guess. So I really, I really try to do as much personal, like clinical evidence and experimentation. And for me, like, a lot of my health thing, anything that implements my health, my health, I'm really monitoring it with my blood work, you know, like, these changes, do this, how did this shift or how did this because like an imbalance or this deficiency, or whatever it may be, so

Chase: would you say that you were kind of primary biomarker, you look out for change? 

Dr. Leary: Yeah, I think, you know, blood work. And monitoring on a regular basis gives us that blueprint and that roadmap of exactly what's happening in our body just like levels. I love those guys. And it's even with my practice people, like, you know, why are you doing things this way? And wasn't that someone told me how to do it. I'm like, okay, I've studied anatomy. I've studied biochemistry, physiology, movement, nutrition, everything, all these things. I'm like, everything's a puzzle. Like, don't follow the rulebook. Don't follow steps, because this is what you should do. It's like, try to understand what's happening. And I think I see that a lot with a lot of rehab, where it's like, here's the symptom is what's going on, let's fight let's like everything you're taught in school, like, follow this protocol for, you know, epicondylitis, whatever it is, and it's like, yeah, but maybe no, and like, but you look at all these other factors, and it's not so black and white. And I think that experimentation of practicing and doing my own research and clinical evidence on myself and with my patients, has always kind of skewed but it's hard for me to like, listen to somebody's story, and try to follow it or listen, I like to get influenced in spot. I like to get inspired by people's words not and try not to get influenced by people's words. You know and I think it's hard because we live in a society where, you know, we want to follow we want to listen to these experts. But everyone has their own path and their own journey. And especially with health, and no one's programs and a fit everyone's program. I think there's things that have come across the board are going to help but I really like to make sure that I have my own individualized approach and like, what is my innovation? What is my thought process? And if I'm doing my research, you know, what would I do versus what did they do? I don't know if that off the right way. 

Chase: I understand for sure. I something I'll share with you. What I didn't show you with you before was actually if I did, like the opposite what you said if I did, like a lot of people do and accept truth as truth, especially in the medical world, the science world, the wellness world, I would not be here quite literally, possibly not sitting, I actually suffered career ending injuries in the military. I learned how to walk again twice. So you get it. And I had orthopedic surgeons, doctors, rehab specialists, I had Uncle Sam, tell me like, hey, you will not ever be back at this level that you were used to. And if I listened to them, and so unfair, it is it was, that's a whole other episode. So I identity crisis, it was just a rug of life yanked out from underneath me, and at 24 years old, too. And so if I'd listened to them, I would have just accepted that as truth. I probably would have kept my physical rehabilitation potential, I would have definitely kept my mental health because I would have just accepted this new life. There's no identity of limitations. But I said, screw that. And when I got out, I, it became my mission to study the human body. And that's why I went to school. It's why I did all these things. And it I wouldn't be here having this conversation with you if I had accepted the truth from those people.

Dr. Leary: That's the thing is no one can tell you your truth. Like, no one can never, no one should ever say never. Especially with things that we don't know. And I think from health, but also life, you know, I, I was always told, like, you're dreaming too big. Oh, you can't do that with your business plan like my Remedy concept that I presented in my last year of school, my business class of like this, what I'm do for practice, oh, that's not gonna work. Or like, alright, I'm going to do a private practice, that's a concierge practice. No one's gonna do that.

Chase: like, people are gonna pay for their health.

Dr. Leary: It's just like, I think it's the worst thing that any human can do, to tell somebody that something is impossible, because we don't know. You know, and I think, especially with someone's health, I see it all the time. So I've dealt with a lot of different types of cases. And to handicap somebody by putting a label on them and tell them that they can't do something. What, from even from a psychosomatic standpoint, like, what, what good is that going to do? If you're ever uninspiring, you're patient. And you're not creating hope, you're creating a cat, like, terrible, like, snowball effect into like, every aspect of their life. You know, like, cataclysmic? Yeah, like, think of like, if you like you said, Have you listened to those people and said, You'll never do this again. You know, we're, you're told to, you want trust in people, especially in your health team, you know, your health care providers. And if being told, that leads to shifting your whole life, you know, like, you’re lucky that you had the mental capacity where you were strong enough to be like, no, I, I can do this, and I'm gonna get through this. And I think a lot of people, especially with this, everything going on with people's mental health, a lot of people don't have that capability yet. And this also just puts them further into the ground, you know, and I think that's a big part of every treatment that I have for the patient, or any one on one is just like, how do we get you in that mental state? And like, how do I inspire you? I can't make you healthy, right? I can only teach you I can be there to support you, and to care and give you the plan. But it's up to you. And, you know, one of the biggest goals of Remedy is to give people their own health independence. I don't want them dependent on our healthcare system. I don't want them dependent on me. I want them to be independent, you know, and, and proactive, not reactive. I say this all the time. And that's education. And part of the education is to like, pump people up. How we're gonna get you better. I always tell people like inspiring like we're gonna get you better. You know, like, that's the thing like my goal when you come and Remedy Places you're always gonna leave feeling better. You know, and it's true. It was so funny because the marketing team that we might hire, they're like, you know, how did you come up with you know, like that slogan that it's not a slogan, but like, people always leave feeling better. And like, you know, wasn't our slogan. Now, after almost being open for two years this is what we're told every day. Yeah, no, I'm like, this is our clinical evidence. Like, this is what people say.

Chase: Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. It reminds me this phrase, I think it was a conference years ago. That always I just kept top of mind when I was in my health coaching practice. And that was, it's not my responsibility to lead you to water but you can't lead young lead a horse to water, you can't make him drink kind of thing. It is my responsibility to just get you to realize how thirsty you are. And then from there, like, let's go to the water fountain thing. 

Dr. Leary: And that's a beautiful thing. It's like, it's like, that's what we're supposed to be doing as humans, like this human connection and helping each other and having pure intentions and being a good person. Like, that's, that's all life is, you know, like that's, and good things happen when you do that, you know, something that the more you dive into that and the more that those intentions are pure, and you're willing to put in the work, I think, like, even the birth of Remedy and like the story behind it is really, you know, it's just everything's like this weird magnetic pole in the company. And it's like just attracting so much and we're not chasing anything. And it's just it's cool to see we're in a we're in it for like a really strong mission. You know, we're really making an impact in people's lives. And I think this is my biggest passion, my biggest dream come true. And like, the more I dive deeper into it, and the team now is expanding and they all understand that they all feel that same the same mission and that same purpose in life. Just more stuff happens. And it's that's like the beauty and I like I I want to inspire entrepreneurs or even non entrepreneurs just like, do what you're supposed to do. Do something that you love work really hard for it. Have right intentions. Be a good person. And good. Good shits gonna happen? 

Chase: solid life business plan right there for sure. I would love to dive into some of the things that you all actually do and provide here. I for one, have love for IV drips for a dunk cryotherapy. Most frequently IR sauna? Walk us through some of the remedies you all provide here. And why did each one of these things make the list? What are the benefits here?

Dr. Leary: Everything here is here because I've had at least five years of clinical evidence with my patients with these devices. I'm, you know, no one pitched me this fancy equipment that was like this is this is a game changer, you know, this is gonna, once again, like, I don't want to listen to someone trying to pitch me a sale, because at the end of the day sales is sales. I wanted to explore and actually see if by combining these different things in different sequential orders and timing, and also just looking at cases that I'm bringing on and seeing how much faster they're recovering. And that's why these things are here. I think that's a little bit different than most of these health places that are popping up is like, I've done that evidence, you know, that clinical evidence. And I think I really I know this rise in holistic health care, you know, I'm a very, like heavily science backed person grew up on the East Coast, where I grew up, there was nothing holistic or alternative kind of fell into this world I saw, I saw that it worked. And I'm like, I want Remedy Place to be the leading team of the next wave of expert doctors. But that also happened to be alternative, not that there's this divide and healthcare of, you know, traditional alternative medicine. I, I want people to understand that. For most things, the first line of intervention should be something holistic. You know, what, like, what for, you know, like, I think, honestly, anything, got issues, autoimmune conditions early stage, you know, depression, anxiety, pain, pain is a big one, you know, gut health is a big one. If you're not making lifestyle changes, in doing the things that you need to do, you're not getting to the root cause. And regardless, if you ever have to go get surgery or be on a certain medication, you should also 100% be doing something that is shifting your, your, your plan, you know, and I think, you know, just seeing that more and more like this, my practice in like, like, wow, I started with just surgery prevention and chronic pain rehabilitation. And then when I started doing functional medicine very early in my practice, all of a sudden, my patients, autoimmune conditions, gastrointestinal problems, fatigue problems, like pain, like all these things just started disappearing, and they're like, Dr. Leary, I'm not having any more flare ups. I've and then they're like, how did you fix that I was like, I didn't fix that. I showed you what your body needed to be back in a balanced state, and your body knows how to heal, you know, and then all of a sudden, my practice started exploding and all these different avenues, where I started just taking on patients that were just gastrointestinal or were just autoimmune and I would tell them like my job is not to treat this condition. It's let me make you as healthy as you can be. And then watch how the body does it. So I'm like, one I really want to inspire this next generation of alternative medicine doctors to be the next top level doctors you know, you have these all these expert doctors that I'm sure that you may have you even interviewed or like you read about, you know, they're in their 40s and 50s and 60s, and it's like, who are these next waves of doctors? You know? And how do we use a platform to, to put their voice out there to teach because at the end goal I want revenue plays to be this free educational platform? So you know, we have all your top alternative medicine, doctors, your functional medicine, your natural paths, your chiropractors, your Chinese medicine, like that's there. So you know, I like to say like those doctors are here to be on your journey, no matter what your journey is, and something that should be an integral part of your health care program. And I like to always start with that, because you know, we have a lot of technology and the technology is really cool. But I even say with the technology, the technology is not changing. Technology is just putting your body in the best state so knows how to do what is supposed to be doing.

Chase: You know, honestly, I I forgot that for a moment. Like, oh, yeah, there are doctors here. There's medical care here because I totally just like distracted, shiny,

Dr. Leary: but it's fun, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like, here's the thing like, outside of that we have hyperbaric chambers, hyperbaric chambers, we want to bring mainstream and I was using these with my patients and my athletes. And just seeing how fast people are recovering It was incredible, but while it's very expensive, and I'm like okay, how do we figure out how to bring the mainstream how do we find a way to make it not look as scary so you know, we have these ones custom made, so they don't look like these crazy submarines really big. Like, you know, these blob tubes that people are really, you know, claustrophobic and those are amazing. Obviously, the infrared saunas love them. We commercialize ice baths. This is another one of my favorites. We commercialize ice baths in a way it's never been done. So we do breathwork ice bath classes so just it's lit. Just like you would book into a SoulCycle you work into a breathwork ice bath class they happen every 30 minutes in the club. This was a tester you know something I always sit in my retreats, but I'm like, how do I make How do I put this in a commercial setting? And how do I also make sure it's smart for the business figured out a way to do it? We're doubling down wait to see club number two because that experience is just going to get cooler and cooler No pun intended. 

Chase: you guys have even expanded out here I've seen them go you've gone from inside to now like lining the sidewalks and roof top events.

Dr. Leary: So we do events. Yeah, we just did it was a 220 over 220 people are run club into a live ice bath class with a DJ set. So we lined up 10 ice baths on Sunset Boulevard. I wanted to make this live billboard activation but also like we're limited because I can't do events right now. I'm like outside. So I'm like, I'm gonna bring it outside and we're gonna put on a show for sunset and it was so much fun and everyone was just like that's what I'm saying like how do we create that social environment that brings all these people together and also enhance their health in the response was from it was incredible and like I said like these classes one of my favorite parts of my retreats that I would always host so to bring that to Sunset Boulevard and was amazing not only from a marketing point of view, but also just like it was cool. So we have two big events this year that we'll be doing that not here when I can't publicly announce but hopefully you guys will see on other people's socialist we just signed an NDA with it but the other ones at the LA marathon we're doing it at the in the VIP section amazing finish line perfect which is cool. But yeah, huge. Then we have the cryotherapy we have the bouncer pro which is this lymphatic drainage massage to vitamin IVs vitamin injections, you know, functional medicine in we call it the movement element, which is what I carried in my practice which is it's just it's a blend of chiropractic physio and Chinese medicine all within one treatment the best manual work that you'll ever have on your body takes care of the joints, the muscles, and the fascia. Instead of going to three different doctors three different philosophies. One doctor one philosophy three treatments in one perfect I promise you if you know if you think you're thinking I'm getting surgery, but you want to look at alternative options, call us if you're in pain, this is your solution. And even if you just want to feel better or perform better. That thing like I had a six month waitlist in my practice before for that treatment. I figured I didn't have time I was legitimately out of time. Now Dr. Rick Dante the director of Apple department crushing it, he is a three week waitlist you know, we had an unfortunate event that one of our other doctors had to leave unexpectedly for some health reasons. But she was she started within two months she was almost she was getting full like, I'm just excited because a lot of training that goes into that treatment style that we're putting on through there, so it's very in depth. So we're just about to onboard another one. But hopefully we'll have like three of those Doctors per club, because I promise you like, it is the best manual work that you'll ever get. And just the success rate, and it's also what Remedy Place if that treatment didn't exist, and I didn't have that, I would have never been able to build Remedy because all the investors or Remedy are patients of mine. 

Chase: So they practice what they preach. They're there, they're in it.

Dr. Leary: Yeah, you know, we had all the right reasons. We had some beautiful stories, and you know, whether it was saving them from surgery or fixing a chronic issue, and they just saw how hard I was working. And they saw, they saw what I wanted to do, but they didn't understand that at the time, they get it now. And they're like, if you can bring any of this to the masses, like, this is something we want to be a part of, and we just yeah, we like you. And we see, we know what you're going to do. And when I said oh, we're gonna create the world's first social wellness club. They're like, what a spa? And I'm like, no, not a spa. You know, like, no one. Got it. And it was, it was funny, because a lot of the investors it took until we open it, they're like, oh, so this is what, like, you know, like, no one knew. And now it's taking off, you know, they're like, wow, like, you're right. So it's, it's so exciting. 

Chase: it's so exciting. And honestly, it's for someone like myself, who like I said, I've been on my wellness journey for like, 15 years, 15-16 years. And the more and more I unravel about myself, my human body, the more and more I feel like I also unravel about the human body, human potential. And I'm unvested I believe it, I study it, I analyze it. I pay attention to the quantitative and the qualitative. But I pay attention to me. But real quick, as we begin to kind of wrap up here. There's someone listening, someone watching who is still a skeptic of what does an IV drip gonna do for me? A sauna is just I'm sweaty, okay, cool. I'm not getting any benefit, like, how do you kind of convey the information to someone who is still I don’t know yet, this stuff will actually help you here and now acutely, but also as prevention?

Dr. Leary: Yeah, I would say, be open to a first experience. And I can, and I can prove to you what you want. You know, I think the first step, there's no reason to ever have judgment, or to have such a, like, a perspective on something that you've never tried. And I think it's, it's a tough thing, it's like in life, like we were saying, before, science is always changing things, we, you know, we're told our noun, wrong, or like, you know, like, or at least different, yeah, or different. It's like, give it what's the harm in giving it a shot. And I think if you don't give it a shot, you're missing out on something really valuable, arguably the most important thing that you can do for your health. And it doesn't mean these flashy toys and technologies and fancy doctors, it's like, foundational health is very simple. You know, if you're in pain, how learning how to move properly, if you're, if you're sick, what are you putting in your body? Because that's fueling or fighting disease, if you're having trouble with your mental health, what are we really doing to, to really dive into your breathwork or meditations and like, finding something that clicks, we don't need money for those things, you know, for learning how to move, there's enough things on YouTube that are free, learning how to eat, there's enough, you know, look to look to Remedy Place, in the future with our podcasts or like anything that we can do to give out that free education. Um, and I really am, it's a big philosophy of mine to make sure people understand that we don't need all of these things and Remedy, you know, you know, I think they're extremely important. But if you're not doing the foundational things, that is the most important thing, you know, um, and those things don't cost money. I think too, is sometimes you know, with certain things, even with a chiropractor, you know, some people were like, I know someone that had a bad experience, or I went to, you know, one and something didn't feel right; every profession has people that are amazing at their profession and some that could use a little bit more work. Don't let one experience ruin a whole entire thing that you could be missing out on because maybe you didn't have the right connection with that individual that was doing it.

Chase: And I think that's a perfect way to kind of bring it full circle is that connection with that individual, huge talked about in the beginning of the level of trust and rapport and comfort, that I think often goes overlooked on the quality of care, the quality of care with a healer, the quality of care with you the relationship with the self, your environment. Like that is something that I think gets overlooked too often,

Dr. Leary: it's, it's arguably like I said, outside of obviously our experiences, the treatments, the environment but who is administering? You, it, you need to be connected with that individual, you need to have trust with that individual. If you are going to somebody and you're like, ah, you know, I just don't like that guy or girl, you know, like, I just feel like something's off. Listen to your gut, you don't have to go to that person. It's like dating, you know, like, just because you can have a million people that are the top experts and like you like, like, love them as a person and what they're doing, but if, if you don't feel like alright, this, there's a connection here. That's, that's gonna slow down, though. Not saying that you can't get the results. But I think the results can still get there. It's going to put a cap some kind and I think it's, I tell patients all the time, like, this is partially an interview, it's like, Are we a right fit? Because if I don't feel connected with you, then also then maybe I'm not a good fit.

Chase: for you, am I gonna be able to correctly navigate the course of treatment.

Dr. Leary: Because that's it's a bond, you know, like this energetic exchange between two humans is connections. It's like, either there's a connection or there's not. And I think that's important in business. I think it's important in your health, I think it's important your friendships, your relationships, your family.

Chase: Are we vibing or not? 

Dr. Leary: It's not a bad thing or not, you know, I think a lot of people are fighting to like, make certain things work. There's nothing wrong with not being connected with somebody. Because at that moment in time, where you're both at in your life doesn't mean that you can never be connected with that individual. Yeah, you know, and I think it's so important just like, never fight, either it's like, you're equally attracted. Not like a, like a physical. Either you're attracted, or you're not at that time. And trust, trust yourself.

Chase: Well, Johnathon it has been amazing having you on the show here, man, thank you so much for opening up Remedy twice now this is my second time being here for interviews. And my audio know how many times just in general, I love this place. I love what you're doing expand the philosophy and the mindset behind it. And speaking of mindset to kind of bring it back into my world a little bit. Living a life ever forward. I firmly believe is attention and awareness into these key areas of our life that help us take a step forward, doesn't have to be the right next step. But just a next step. Because I firmly believe also that where the mind goes, the body will follow and so much of our health, so much of our physical health, and so much of our life, or business or wellness, can truly start with just a shift in our mindset. And so my last question I ask everybody is my philosophy of ever forward, what does that mean to you, when you hear just those two words? What does it mean to you to live a life ever forward?

Dr. Leary: I think it means being ever forward, there's understanding that you, you control a lot of things in your life. And you know, whether you control how you react to things happening, or you control to the hard work that you're putting into anything. The power of a thought, or an intention is so important. I don't think science will ever catch up. Maybe even in our lifetime, I hope it does to the actual power of that mindset. And I think it's hard for a lot of people to understand because it took me even me so long, to under understand it, but what you're thinking and what you want, and what you're manifesting. If, if you're really believing in something like it's possible, like anything, is possible, being ever forward means like, this is your life. You can do anything you want with it. So like, really take the time, understand what you're grateful for, understand what you want, understand the changes that you want in your life, and make it happen. You know, because I think you in every individual in the world has the potential to do that. And don't let anyone say that you can't be ever forward because there's only one direction we can go in life and that is forward. 

Chase: we are all on that path forward. Whether we like it or not we can't go backwards. And if you think about the metaphysics, metaphysics of everything, we're technically not ever still just here, we're constantly just going.

Dr. Leary: I think it's like 90 90% of stressors are things in the past, or that we have no control over. So like focus, instead of focusing everything on all the things that we can't control, focus everything on a 10% we can control and take it and run because life can be something really special, but it's not up to us, you know, or up to that individual.

Chase: Yeah, truly well again thank you so much this has been great I'm have all of your information for you and for any plays down in the show notes for everybody to check out if you're in LA, come here and if you're in other places soon to be announced in the world, you know, go there as well this this, this is the time this is the place, this is the opportunity to take back your health for a lot of people. And for others, maybe you're already on that journey to, to just optimize it and excel and just get feedback in ways that maybe you've never thought were possible.

Dr. Leary: And have fun with it go back to human connection to change up your social environment a little bit. And we're here because we want to help and we want to make sure that we're being a positive impact to your life.

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