"I'm chasing unconditional love. I'm chasing the feeling of being connected with people. I'm chasing knowledge and understanding that helps more people."

Danny Miranda

Have you ever felt a shift in energy when walking into a new city or during a pivotal moment in your life? My conversation with Danny Miranda takes us on a journey through such vibrational landscapes, as we discuss mind-blowing concepts like muscle testing and David Hawkins' map of consciousness. We tap into how these tools can reflect the ebb and flow of our emotional states and even the collective pulse of the city you call home.

There's a serene power in surrender, a lesson I've come to appreciate through meditation and making time for stillness. These moments spark a new approach to my podcast and real-life conversations, seeking authenticity and presence over meticulous preparation. Sharing a transformative encounter with Mike Posner, Danny reveals how letting go can lead to beautiful, organic interactions that stay with you long after the mic is off.

Bringing our chat home, Danny shares a heartfelt story of growth and engagement, inviting us to live EVER FORWARD with love, joy, and peace. We close this episode inspired, pondering how presence, kindness, and heartfelt communication are not only the essence of a good podcast but also the foundation of a life well-lived. Join us for an episode that’s as much about the depths of human consciousness as it is about the simple, yet profound, act of being truly present with one another.

Follow Danny @heydannymiranda

Follow Chase @chase_chewning


In this episode we discuss...

(7:28) Calibrating Consciousness and Self-Reflection

(19:01) Chasing Unconditional Love and Surrender

(32:23) Navigating Dreams and Continuous Learning

(38:34) Overcoming Fear Through Sharing Experiences

(49:26) Evolution of Consciousness and Growth

(57:29) What Does Self-Exploration Really Feel Like?

(01:04:16) Power of Connection and Transformation With Anyone and Everyone You Meet

(01:12:09) Committing to Your Mission

(01:17:45) Future Growth and Self-Reflection


Episode resources:

EFR 786: How to Raise Your Consciousness Using Questions & Mindfulness to Transform Your Daily Life with Danny Miranda

Have you ever felt a shift in energy when walking into a new city or during a pivotal moment in your life? My conversation with Danny Miranda takes us on a journey through such vibrational landscapes, as we discuss mind-blowing concepts like muscle testing and David Hawkins' map of consciousness. We tap into how these tools can reflect the ebb and flow of our emotional states and even the collective pulse of the city you call home.

There's a serene power in surrender, a lesson I've come to appreciate through meditation and making time for stillness. These moments spark a new approach to my podcast and real-life conversations, seeking authenticity and presence over meticulous preparation. Sharing a transformative encounter with Mike Posner, Danny reveals how letting go can lead to beautiful, organic interactions that stay with you long after the mic is off.

Bringing our chat home, Danny shares a heartfelt story of growth and engagement, inviting us to live EVER FORWARD with love, joy, and peace. We close this episode inspired, pondering how presence, kindness, and heartfelt communication are not only the essence of a good podcast but also the foundation of a life well-lived. Join us for an episode that’s as much about the depths of human consciousness as it is about the simple, yet profound, act of being truly present with one another.

Follow Danny @heydannymiranda

Follow Chase @chase_chewning


In this episode we discuss...

(7:28) Calibrating Consciousness and Self-Reflection

(19:01) Chasing Unconditional Love and Surrender

(32:23) Navigating Dreams and Continuous Learning

(38:34) Overcoming Fear Through Sharing Experiences

(49:26) Evolution of Consciousness and Growth

(57:29) What Does Self-Exploration Really Feel Like?

(01:04:16) Power of Connection and Transformation With Anyone and Everyone You Meet

(01:12:09) Committing to Your Mission

(01:17:45) Future Growth and Self-Reflection


Episode resources:


0:00:00 - Speaker 1 You spend hours on end researching humans of all walks of life entrepreneurs, authors, wellness gurus, community members to ask them a series of questions for an hour, two hours at a time. What are you chasing?

0:00:20 - Speaker 2 I'm chasing unconditional love. I'm chasing the feeling of being connected with people. I'm chasing knowledge and understanding that helps more people. It's so different for each moment or each person that's in front of me. I'm chasing greater love and freedom for the person that is in front of me right now. That's what I'm always chasing. Hello, I'm Danny Miranda. I'm a lover of life, expander of consciousness and a writer and podcast host. I love chase tuning. He's an incredible legend who got the most out of me in this interview, and this is EverFootwork Radio.

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Now. What's up everybody? Thank you so much for joining me here on the show. I got an action packed episode for you. This one is going to make you sit, it's going to make you think, it's going to make you scratch your head and, if nothing else, it's going to make you probably fall in love with my man, danny Miranda. This guy has such a zest for life Honestly unmatched. Danny has been in my life for about three years now. Met him through a mutual friend and former guest on the show, doug Cartwright, years ago, and what I love most about Danny is his ability to drop in, to be present, and he just loves life. He loves asking questions about life. You got to check out his podcast, the Danny Miranda show. He brings on some of the most intriguing minds because he has one himself.

If you are interested in questions, if you are interested in consciousness, if you're interested in just what makes people tick and how we can leave every interaction with every person whether that's our Uber driver, our barista, our podcast guests, if you wanting to know how to walk away from every conversation, every interaction, more empowered, more inquisitive and tapping into a deeper level of source, this is your episode. Danny is your guy. I don't know about you, but for me there's truly this incredible serene power in surrender, and this is a lesson that I've come to appreciate through practices of meditation, mindfulness and just truly making time for stillness, and this is something that Danny and I hit home on. These moments, for me, spark a new approach to my podcast and just my life, my relationships, seeking authenticity and presence over just meticulous preparation. So, if you're a content creator, if you're somebody that is feeling maybe monotonous about what you're doing, danny and I really dive into how to stay fresh and how to stay creative and how to stay curious. He even explains and helps us understand how can we tap into the vibration, the consciousness of our environment. Quite literally, at what level is our city performing in terms of consciousness? He's got some wild tools and wild resources, some things that are really locked into scientific evidence. But you also just can't deny that feeling when you walk into a room or you move to a city or visit somewhere and you just you feel alive. There's something to it, and Danny is going to help us understand exactly what that is.

I had the pleasure recently of sitting down with Danny on his show in episode 442. It is live now on the Danny Miranda show. You can check that out. I'll have it linked for you down in the show notes If you want to check out the video which I recommend you do. Beautiful set. Thank you, record ATX. I'll have that linked for you in the show notes as well. You can always find us on YouTube. It would mean the world to me if you would smash that thumbs up button subscribe to the channel. So much growth recently over on YouTube and the more growth we get, the more amazing guests we can get and the more production I can bring to the show. So you have not only a great listening experience but visual one as well, and actually, on the way to the studio to meet Danny, I found this incredible local coffee spot and got us both an Americano.

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0:07:06 - Speaker 2 Do you know anything about muscle testing? Basically, I calibrated the cities, I calibrated different people, I calibrated myself to figure out where, on the spectrum of life and the spectrum of consciousness, I'm operating from and where different cities are operating from.

0:07:24 - Speaker 1 All right, we're in. Is this a new algorithm that you've written, or what do you mean? You've calculated, dude. So this is my latest obsession. Are you like collaborating with Michio Akaku on some quantum physics stuff? Like what, bro?

0:07:38 - Speaker 2 so there's this thing called muscle testing and there's a map of consciousness that David Hawkins created and the bottom levels of the consciousness map are fear, apathy, guilt, shame. That 200 is the level of truth, which is courage, and the level of 500 is love, and above that is joy, above that is peace, above that is enlightenment. And there's numbers associated with every single emotion and you basically can calibrate different things, different people, different events, different situations, and you can put them on the spectrum of that map of those emotions. Wow. And so I calibrated every year of my life and it perfectly correlates with how conscious I was during that time. No, wow.

0:08:46 - Speaker 1 Bro, I started just like overlay the map onto your timeline.

0:08:49 - Speaker 2 I said July 13th, on July 13, 2000, I was this level. And then I calibrated myself and it's just like this level. And then I said, in July 13, 2015, when I was in college, I calibrated at this level. And then July 13, 2020, I calibrated at this level. And when I start drinking alcohol, when I start partying, it goes down. When I start meditating, it goes up. When I stop meditating, after meditating for a little bit, it stays the same. When I start learning more about myself, it goes up. It is remarkable, and so the reason why I brought that up is because I calibrated last night Austin, texas and Los Angeles just by coincidence. All right, lay it on me, lay it on me. Los Angeles is operating at, I believe, 269, which represents, I want to say, willingness or acceptance somewhere around that, because 200 was like courage, right, 200's courage and 200 represents truth.

So any city or any place that's operating below 200 is below truth. According to David Hawkins scale, austin, texas, is calibrating at 569, which is so double, double, but it's not even double. It's because the logarithmic scale, not an arithmetic scale, meaning like the quantity of one point is like an exponential amount greater, like one doesn't really equal one, correct, wow. And when people are like, yeah, like I feel the vibe in Austin, like it's a really loving place, it's everyone's so kind, yeah, what they're really referring to at a deep level is the level of consciousness of the environment.

0:10:32 - Speaker 1 I mean, where do you even go from that? That's a way of quantifying what people are really looking for and spend so much time navigating. There's literally a roadmap for maybe not what you want out of life, but where you might be able to get it.

0:10:56 - Speaker 2 Dude. It is wild because you well, I read recently that something is found by science often and then, 60 years later, the invention that is found becomes mainstream because, like enough, people die. In other words, for that idea to come through and for things to be invented where there's enough backing from it. Look at Nikola Tesla, right and when, when electricity comes about and it's like, it's remarkable how consistent it is with 60 years.

So 60 years across the board is kind of that sweet spot of like something gets found by science in some way and then it becomes mainstream known and mainstream accepted. And you could look at this with different inventions. You could look at this with the airplane and 1905, the airplane gets invented and then 1965, people are traveling via airplane very often.

0:11:52 - Speaker 1 Well, that's really what I mean. If you look at, I mean technically it would be multiple generations, like you know, by per 10 years or decades, but that's really really just talking a one generational change, right, right. So it takes that long because the current generation is so probably locked into their ways, not really going to adopt this. You got a lot, or you got some slow adopters. But then the next generation, they get brought up with it or they recognize hey, actually have a choice. It doesn't have to just be this there's the old way and then there's maybe a new way. Yeah, that's so. That makes sense.

0:12:25 - Speaker 2 So the reason why I brought that up is because muscle testing gets found. I read last night in 1971.

0:12:33 - Speaker 1 So we are currently 54 years from that moment, or 52, 53 years and it's like okay, so we're less than a decade out of who knows what maybe Correct.

0:12:46 - Speaker 2 And when I'm bringing this up to my friends, who are loving and aware and conscious and helpful and feeling great about themselves and feeling happy and feeling joy, they don't know about this. And I'm like, oh my God, this is the first time I've mentioned on a podcast they do now Danny.

0:13:03 - Speaker 1 The muscle testing disciple Miranda is here dropping knowledge in logarithms and quantum physics to ever forward radio. It's never been done before man.

0:13:14 - Speaker 2 It's never been done before Dude you know, I just I think this is like why we are just in. What we're doing is because we love learning about things and we love sharing it, and that's what I realized about myself really young. I was like I'm just a guy who just is a conduit for the things that I'm interested in, and I'll just talk about it to preach Same way.

And so if you're that type of person like I, literally found out about this two weeks ago and I saw how much it impacted my life at a deep level and I saw how my consciousness rose by virtue of just learning about the chart and just learning that I could raise it, by virtue of seeing the ways it made sense, seeing how people were acting in fear, holding a previous version of myself when I was looking at someone else, being able to calibrate someone else and be like, okay, you're operating at um, at fear now, or pride, and I remember when I was acting out of fear of pride, so now I have extra love and compassion for the people I'm talking to. Dude, it has transformed my life.

0:14:11 - Speaker 1 All right, let me ask you you just said you were operating out of fear and pride. Were you aware of that at the time or were you only now aware of it, looking back?

0:14:23 - Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a great question, I think so. What's interesting when I calibrated myself is every year on my birthday, I've never calibrated below 200, and 200 is the place of truth and 200 represents, um, like, fear and pride are below 200. Okay, that's not to say that there have been moments of my life, absolutely, where I've calibrated below the truth. However, it's been rare, but I will say that when I was in those states, there was like a shutting off of myself, a feeling of like I don't even want to look at myself because I'm so disappointed in who I am and so disappointed in the fact I calibrated. This is crazy. I calibrated my mom and dad. My dad is, uh, 250 or 260 and my mom is 380.

0:15:22 - Speaker 1 So I don't have to like I don't think we've actually said, like, how do you actually go about? What is the calibration? Is it like formula?

0:15:28 - Speaker 2 Yeah, you literally hold your fingers like this. Um, for those listening, go over to YouTube right now or the video version.

0:15:36 - Speaker 1 Subscribe like comment.

0:15:38 - Speaker 2 And so you hold your fingers like this and you say I have permission to calibrate, and if something is true, then your finger will stay the same. You will exhibit force, against that, you exhibit power. And if it's not true, if I say my name is Chase, my finger instantly goes down. It is a wild. Like I saw your face just now You're like wait.

0:16:03 - Speaker 1 is this really true?

0:16:04 - Speaker 2 Yes, it is really true. If you're operating above 200 and you don't have skepticism of the process Like it actually works, all right, you're giving me some homework, so I like it. So I'll also link down below. We can, I'll send you. Please do this. But so I basically go. My consciousness right now is above 200, because it's say the same, I know that's true. My consciousness right now is above 300. My consciousness is above 400. My conscious is above 500. My conscious is above 600. Because my finger dropped, I know my consciousness is somewhere between five and 600. My conscious is above 510. My conscious is above 520.

0:16:43 - Speaker 1 So because my I was wondering how are you getting the smaller digits there?

0:16:46 - Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm like my conscious is above 511, 512. So my consciousness calibrates at 511 right now. That's my total energetic field. It's like it's a wild thing. Yeah, it is absolutely true. And so I calibrated my, I calibrated everyone in my life, Like I've become obsessed. I have spreadsheets, I have files, I have I have days. I'm tracking every because I know how true it is.

0:17:12 - Speaker 1 Wow, and so I calibrate. You got to pitch this to like a dating app or something, Bro I'm.

0:17:17 - Speaker 2 I'm just like, yeah, I, what's crazy too. I can do calibrations with people I haven't met and just see a photo of them and then I can watch them or listen to them and be like that is actually true. That person is coming from love, that person is coming from reason, that person is coming from a pride, Like I. I actually Wow.

0:17:37 - Speaker 1 So, so before the calibration tool, how did you it's only reflecting back, we kind of more aware of of the fear and the pride aspect before the calibration, or even outside of your own self, like, how do you think people can fairly assess right now, am I acting out of fear and acting out of pride, my living out of those two?

0:17:57 - Speaker 2 Yeah, the problem is when you're operating below 200, operating below truth, you you can't calibrate it, you don't know truth, you're not operating in the sense of of the greater truth, if that makes sense, and so it's very difficult. I'm not the best person to give advice on this, because most of my life has been above 200. And it's why I've wanted to be a therapist. But I've said to myself I don't know how I can. I don't feel the same guiding force that I do for people who are above 200 as I do below 200. And that's something I definitely wanna work on and grow into. Of like, how do I hold more people, how do I elevate more people? But the answer, honestly, is I don't know. I don't know what you do, and I'm curious to talk to therapists or people who are familiar with this to help them grow through it.

0:18:50 - Speaker 1 I love that you said. I mean you had an answer in there, but I think you, I mean you ended with I don't know. I love that you said I don't know.

0:18:59 - Speaker 2 It's the truth. I love that. Back to my mom and dad, Dude, zero through one, through 13,. Every year I calibrated at three oh five. Okay, three oh five represents willingness, I believe, or optimism, something around that. My dad calibrates at 260. My mom calibrates at 360. Three oh five is directly in the middle of both of those, and it's not like one is better than the other and it's not like like there's no judgment. It's not better than less than Right. It's just like that's the level of your consciousness and that's the area of your consciousness and that's how you're operating, and it's just like it's an interesting thing that that would happen.

0:19:48 - Speaker 1 So yeah, what a way to get rolling man and true Danny fashion coming out swinging, swinging, swinging. So I do have some questions that I want to run through with your brother. All right, for those of you that don't know, danny Miranda is a podcaster, content creator, twitter extraordinaire, or Xer, I should say. Now let's go, and I'm sure you can tell if you've been watching the video. The dude is just lit all the time. It's got a zest for life that is, you know, in many ways unmatchable. You spend hours on end researching humans of all walks of life entrepreneurs, authors, wellness gurus, community members to ask them a series of questions for an hour, two hours at a time. What are you chasing?

0:20:43 - Speaker 2 I'm chasing unconditional love. I'm chasing the feeling of being connected with people. I'm chasing knowledge and understanding that helps more people. I would say it's so different for each moment or each person that's in front of me. I'm chasing greater love and freedom for the person that is in front of me right now. That's what I'm always chasing.

0:21:15 - Speaker 1 I'm kind of letting that sink in To kind of piggyback off. You know, we just came from a great conversation for your show of just when you get present, with everything, everyone in front of you, best expectation going in is that you get what you want to come out right. But when you match that with unparalleled presence, there's no amount of preparation you could ever have or do that will actually prepare you for what you will then walk away with. And that's what I'm hearing you kind of describe and what you're chasing in that. When did that first happen for you? When did that moment go? Okay, this is what I think I'm supposed to be doing, you know, as an interviewer, as a podcaster, as a creative, and then now here's really what's happening and therefore I'm gonna honor what's happening so I can keep duplicating this feeling as much as possible.

0:22:19 - Speaker 2 Yeah, so I started meditating in September of 2019 and I started to notice synchronicities. I started to notice, wow, like the world is unfolding in a crazy way, like this is interesting, and I stopped meditating. And then I noticed the synchronicities would stop and I noticed life would stop unfolding and I was less present and I started meditating again. And then I put out on Twitter who wants to talk on the phone? And I had about five or 6,000 followers on Twitter and I would do phone calls with people who follow me, with people who didn't follow me, about meditation, no, about their life, just pay office hours open, let's go.

July 2020, june 2020, random phone calls, random people all around the world, and I was lit up. I was like this is incredible, holy smokes, like this person exists. What's going on in the UK? This COVID? What's going on in Australia? What's going on in Asia? What's going on in different states? Dude you, just in that moment, you could see everyone's going through the same thing, but everyone's going through the same thing slightly differently, which I've never phrased like that before, but it's really the truth. And being able to do phone calls with people from around the world was such a blessing and I felt such a joy after these phone calls that I was like, oh my God, I should record these. And you know, what's interesting is like looking back, like recording something does change the dynamic and changes the conversation in some way.

I then got into like I'm gonna be an interviewer, I gotta interview these people and I gotta come prepared, and it's like I just made up the story of, like, what I needed to do to be enough. And now, over the past three, six months I would say really three months over the past three months, I've understood the mission that I started with. Wow, I've understood, oh, you are enough in every moment. And guess what? The more present you are, the more joyful it will be to yourself and the other person. And you can prepare, sure, but, like, that's not really the essence and that wasn't the essence it began with. So it's been a relearning of myself, to learn something that I already knew and something that brought me joy. So that's the full circle of it.

0:24:45 - Speaker 1 To beautiful explanation. Thank you for that. Reflecting back on, I think, what pushing 500 episodes now Over four, 441. 441. Yeah, reflecting back on so many conversations, what is one lesson? Not, maybe not necessarily one person what is one lesson that, whether it was last week episode or the first episode that you still carry with you the most today, dude?

0:25:15 - Speaker 2 surrender to the flow of life, because you cannot possibly understand what is going to happen and everything is so perfect. And like the last episode that I just published with Mike Posner, I mean, this was a guy. I was depressed in my bedroom in September of 2019, of January 2020. And here I am four years later talking to him. Like, to me, that idea was so crazy and the craziest part about it was, too, two separate people introduced me and him at the same time. Really, you cannot script. It was almost as if I mean I get chills. Just think about that.

Life, capital L life was saying this is the time for this conversation, and it really was. If that conversation had happened three months prior, it wouldn't be the same, and I mean it wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be as rich. I mean, I've gotten more comments about this episode than, like, just genuine feelings of shifting something in humans, wow, wow. And so what does that say? That says that that moment was perfect, just the way it was. There's the synchronicity you're talking about, exactly. So I think the biggest thing that I've taken away from it is I'm not in control. I can convince myself I am, but I'm not and I'm just riding this experience and the better I can get of letting go as we talked about in our episode together, which people have to check out, because it moved me to goosebumps and tears and just like real deep feeling the better you can get at letting go, the better you can experience the magic that unfolds.

0:26:58 - Speaker 1 I don't know why this analogy just came to mind because I'm not a surfer at all, even though I live in Los Angeles. The best surfers in the world, I'm sure would say that it takes the highest level of preparation of mind and body to choose to put yourself out on the board, out on the wave, but to actually have happen what you want to ride the perfect wave. Who can ever control the wave? No matter how hard you train your body, no matter the best board, the preparation, whatever you have, when you get out there it is full surrender and I'm sure the more you try to control that situation, the bigger wipeout you're gonna have. Man, but I'm sure in that flow state of just riding that too, with a pipeline, whatever they call, it, is full and complete surrender, while simultaneously knowing that every second of your preparation brought you here so that you could be able to surrender, to have that perfect wave, to fulfill a dream.

0:28:09 - Speaker 2 The preparation is honoring the moment. You are honoring the fact that you get the opportunity to surf this wave. So I'm gonna make sure my board is clean, I'm gonna make sure I practice my moves, I'm gonna make sure I can get up and so, but then you're out there, forget it all and that's the beauty of it and imagine if life itself is that way. Imagine if every moment is the wave, and I feel it and I'm fully surrendering, because every time I do, it leads to greater and greater outcomes that fill me with more and more joy. Dude absolutely.

0:28:44 - Speaker 1 I mean, think about how many other scenarios have maybe you've been, I've definitely been in or people are in where you get ready for this thing and then you get there and maybe the person leading it is like all right, forget everything you know, leave, don't abandon all hope, but leave everything that you thought you needed for this endeavor at the door, and that can really freak a lot of people out and go, oh well, now what? But it's the fact that you had to do all of that in order to be at a place to know how and to know why, to surrender so that you can get out of this experience what you actually need to get, because how often do we hold on to our preparation in any life event, for dear life?

0:29:33 - Speaker 2 And the reason why you're holding onto the preparation is often because you believe you're not enough. That's why I was holding onto the preparation when I was doing the podcast and preparing, and, preparing, and preparing. It's like I'm not enough with just talking to this person and this person is famous, or this person has this status, or this person has built this business Like I'm not enough, who am I? Who am I to talk to this person? So I need to prepare and I need to hold on to this preparation. But what if you were? What if you were enough? What if you were just as capable? Because you were a human being with a consciousness and you were on your path and you were curious and you were just you and that was enough.

0:30:11 - Speaker 1 Yeah, powerful hypothesis, powerful question.

0:30:15 - Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I was talking to someone earlier today and he's like, yeah, I get nervous before speaking to people sometimes and I was like why? He's like, well, if the conversation is surface level, I don't think I'm gonna be at my best. And because he's like I'm at my best when I'm going deep and I was like I understand that, but what if you guys just talk about the weather? What if you're what's gonna happen? He's like, well, like I'm not gonna be enough. And I was like, but what if you are? Where'd you learn that? And he gave me a situation where he learned that and he was like, oh my God, like that I don't need to hold. I was like, who do you be without that belief? Right, right. And he's like just laughing so much release, so much goes away when you really like, you recognize the belief that you're holding and recognize that you actually don't need it. And who would you be without that? I'm not enough, I'm not wanted, I'm not loved, I'm not. On the other side of that is freedom.

0:31:19 - Speaker 1 You mentioned that you recently had Mike Posner on. For those of you that don't know, mike Posner is a, I think, grammy award-winning singer-songwriter. You probably have heard his music and I know, when you sat with him, that this was a dream guest of yours, one that maybe one of a few. That is just, oh, man, one day, when I'm good enough, when the podcast is big enough, when, when, when, when, when. And then you did it, man. So congratulations, thank you. But I want to ask what role do dreams have in how you choose to live your life? Do you try to live your life to match or to meet or even surpass your dreams, or do you somehow live your life and then let the dreams become what your life is?

0:32:10 - Speaker 2 Such a good question. I don't know this is going to be a theme of this podcast.

0:32:16 - Speaker 1 I don't know what the answer, but I'll Danny. Miranda doesn't know.

0:32:20 - Speaker 2 That should be the name of my podcast, because I'm curious, you know. But I think if I were to tackle this question, it would be like dreams are helpful to help you clarify the direction you want to go, and if you have so, many of us are without clear vision, and when I ask people if I pray for you, what should I pray for? The most common answer, surprisingly for me, was clear vision. Like people wanted clear vision more than anything else at least the small sample size of 25 people that I've asked. And what that really speaks to is you don't have a dream If you don't have a clear vision. You don't have what is going to happen where you are going to go, and it's not strong enough. And so, for me, the selling out Madison Square Garden has been a dream of mine and it's cool, it's helpful to be like do I want to go there? What's going on there? Like what would have to happen for that to occur?

0:33:27 - Speaker 1 But it's also good to be like what would happen right before. That happened Right the moment before, the moment in pursuit of our dreams. Still, when I look back at it, it's like those, I think, are the ones that blow my mind the most, because you don't give enough credit to them.

0:33:45 - Speaker 2 What do you mean exactly?

0:33:46 - Speaker 1 So if we're in pursuit of a dream, we think we're only happy or it's only a success when the dream comes true. But in order for that dream to come true, the thing right before that has to happen. The thing right before that has to happen All the way back to that moment when, oh, I have a dream, I have this idea, and then you take action. There are dozens, hundreds, thousands potentially, of compounding sequential events, mini-dreams that have to happen in order for the big thing to happen. And before that big thing happens, take a second and look back and, like, give yourself credit to all those mini-dreams because you're standing on their shoulders now.

0:34:31 - Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely, and that's a really good point. And the fact that I sometimes get asked like, okay, what are you going to do when this happens? I don't know. And it's like I don't know and also I'm just going to be as present as possible to see what happens, like just because you accomplish a dream, as long as that dream is not associated with your self-worth, that's amazing. It's like, okay, I interviewed Mike Posner. My life is exactly the same and the exactly the same is loving and feeling amazing about my life.

0:35:03 - Speaker 1 You're not shutting down the show like, oh, that's it, I'm done.

0:35:07 - Speaker 2 Exactly, that's not it. It's like just find something you enjoy doing and you can continue enjoying doing it, and life is just going to be the same after the dream is accomplished as it was before. And so make sure, before feels freaking amazing.

0:35:24 - Speaker 1 I heard this phrase years ago, I believe, from another podcast I was listening to where somebody said it, so I don't know who to give credit to, but it's not mine. Knowing without doing is the same thing as not knowing. And you're kind of like again piggybacking from our conversation. We literally just we're doing back to back. So all of what Danny just asked me, we talked about so fresh in my mind of it's that integration and reflection period. I think that really where the magic happens when we choose to do the work, whenever we show up for whatever we're working on. So knowing if knowing without doing is the same thing as not knowing, when you sit down across the table, across the computer from another person, and then when you're done, what does that integration process look like for you? How do you go from I just sat with, spent an hour, two hours with this person. Okay, now I'm done, move on. Like you gotta have some kind of doing process, right? What is that? And how do you make sure that when the conversation ends, the learning doesn't stop?

0:36:26 - Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a great question. What's been cool for me is rewatching every episode back by virtue of editing it and producing it and doing the timestamps, and now I'm able to be like, oh wow, I didn't catch that and I was involved in the conversation.

0:36:40 - Speaker 1 Because I was too damn present. Too damn present, I missed it Exactly.

0:36:45 - Speaker 2 And so learning about the conversation after it's over, by virtue of being the third person on the wall, is really helpful in helping me integrate some of the learnings and the lessons again. And then also it's not beating myself up. You know how much information comes at you when you've done hundreds of podcasts. Was it 600, 700? Over 800. 800 podcast episodes, like the amount of information you've consumed, is ridiculous. I have no idea Exactly, and so if you beat yourself up for I'm not doing this from this person and I'm doing this from this, it's just like whatever is important in that moment will come to your consciousness, like that's kind of how I think about it.

0:37:28 - Speaker 1 So let's take that and kind of pivot to the general public. I think right now, here we are 2024. I don't see social media going away. I don't see consumption going away. Hopefully we've had conversations and as ironic as it is, pieces of content about hey, put the phone down, step away, don't wake up and just mindlessly scroll, don't go to bed and mindlessly scroll. There's that part, but then there's also there's so much learning, so much good, there's so much connection and so much synchronicity waiting to happen just by a swipe, by a tap, by a share. How would you advise somebody to want to learn, to want to consume, but to sufficiently and this is gonna be probably varying person by person but to sufficiently know that they are absorbing, dare I even say retaining, not to be an expert by any means, but to absorb, to retain and to apply so that they can go all right. I didn't just listen to the latest and greatest podcast. I didn't just find the coolest hack on TikTok. I actually can implement this in my life.

0:38:46 - Speaker 2 And I would say what are you sharing? Like you consume all the information and what are you? When you share something, it's almost like you're saying thank you for all the things you've learned, and so it completes the cycle. For me, that really is helpful in I didn't just listen to Mike Poser's music. I listened to it and then I got to the place where I could then share his music with more people.

And so I think if you're like I'm stuck in this trap of this phone is using me and I'm consuming and I'm not learning enough and I'm not, it's like, okay, what are you creating yourself from it? It could be writing, it could be podcasts, it could be a video. It literally it doesn't even need to be shared to the world, like you mentioned in our show. It could be shared to yourself in a phone in a vertical way, or in your notes. Like you writing a journal entry about the content you consumed is actually you sharing to yourself, to your future self, what you learned. So I think what are you creating from it is a very important thing to ask to make the most out of these devices.

0:39:56 - Speaker 1 When I think about what you said about sharing is exactly like it's form of thank you right, it's the smallest form but, especially as the person who created it, one of, if not the biggest, thank yous that we could ever get or anybody could ever get that share means the world in so many different ways. But I think if we took a step back and we really go I want to learn, I want to make my life better. One of the best ways I found to do that is to make sure that I have a support system around that. And when we share what we're learning and it can be as subtle as reposting something on Instagram, texting to a friend, forwarding an email you are at least allowing the opportunity and potential for them. It might not be their cup of tea, but for them to scratch a niche, to learn what you're learning, to open up a conduit for conversation and mutual growth. Imagine this you learn something.

A person listening right now. They're gonna hear something in this podcast, I guarantee you, and it is going to blow their mind and they are going to become empowered and curious in a way that they never thought possible and it is most likely potentially gonna change the trajectory of their life. How selfish is that to keep it to yourself. If you're an employee, imagine walking into a room, your job, the next day, when at least one other person maybe majority are on the same wavelength as you. You're learning and applying things in the same way. Your personal wellness goal now becomes supported by everyone else in your house because you shared what you're learning, you shared what is of interest to you and therefore they can get on board and support that Like look, we can go really far on our own, but I don't know about you, man, but I can't go further on my own without the support of other people.

0:41:49 - Speaker 2 Yeah, and if I look back on the moments in my life when I didn't share the things that I was learning, it's because I was scared, scared of what other people would think.

0:41:56 - Speaker 1 So true, so true, all right. So take us there like in a moment maybe you have a specific example or just in general. I want more people to know about this. I want to share this because this is curious to me and meaningful to me, but yet I don't why.

0:42:16 - Speaker 2 I think it was like I would look at people sharing things themselves on social media, people who are creating content themselves or just sharing other people's stuff like influencers, and I'd be like that person, like something in me, was triggered by it, because that was my truth right At a deep level, I was not willing to look at myself and be like that is something I'd like, so instead I said to myself that person's probably full of it.

That person is such a narcissist oh my God, like. What a typical thing for someone's just like. But that was all happening beneath the surface level, beneath the programming that I couldn't like, unpack or look at, and it was only when I started meditating that I became more comfortable with sharing the real truth of who I am. I mean, even I posted, I tweeted in 2018 when I graduated college and started my Twitter account and I went under the handle Danny Roars, and it was because, looking back on it, I was sharing things about dropshipping and e-commerce and marketing, but if my friends from college saw that, I'd be insecure about it.

0:43:26 - Speaker 1 You're hiding behind a persona in alias. Exactly Wow.

0:43:30 - Speaker 2 So even when I kind of broke through, when I started sharing my stuff because I knew I could do that, from being a 13 and 15 year old kid starting blogs, there was also a part of me that was like I don't know if I could really share my real truth.

Because I wanted to start a blog that was called Carpe Diem Diem being my initials and seize the day right and posts that would help give people more aliveness, posts that would help inspire people. But I was like you can't make money doing that, what am I gonna do that for? So it's interesting how there's like layers to it and levels to it, and for me this process took years of like. Now I can post a video of myself just talking to the camera, regardless of what anyone says to it, and I look at that. I'm like in a moment I'm like, oh, that's like such an easy thing to do. Yeah, it's easy now because I've had years of prep doing that. So, yeah, I think for someone early on in their journey, it's like really investigating your own beliefs about what is upsetting you, like life just is, and so if something's upsetting you, you're getting in the way of that.

0:44:36 - Speaker 1 Dude, I'm sitting with that. I like that a lot, I think. I think that, for a large amount of people, is the key. That is the key to everything else, because when I'm literally in my head just rapidly going back years and years and years and years of so much work and curiosity and working through fear and judgment and away from truth and realizing how far away from my truth I was and this is where I think a lot of people are until you have that wake up moment If I had to really reverse engineer everything back, it's that moment.

It's that moment when I stopped caring about that or realized that there is nowhere near the amount of weight attached to a share, a post, a thought even that I had in my mind. It reminds me of one of my favorite Stoa quotes from Seneca's we suffer far more in imagination than in reality. How many people wrestle with that? We build up these walls and we live in suffering. We live not even close to our potential because of a fear that only exists in our minds, but yet we think it is everywhere, with everyone.

0:46:09 - Speaker 2 It is so, so true. Is it a kid from high school? Is it being shared in this group chat that you're worried about? Is it what your mom thinks? Is it what your dad, who thinks you shouldn't do this? Is it what he thinks? Is it your teacher when she put you down because you shared something in class?

0:46:30 - Speaker 1 How many of our fears are teller to pass experiences that we may or may not even know are there? That's the next layer, exactly, and if?

0:46:38 - Speaker 2 you can identify those people, that person you don't want to see at the grocery store, the person you're not going home for because you're like if I see this person, that's going to mean like I'm going to tense up. Well, there's something there, there's a deep truth about yourself that you are not looking at, and I know that because I've uncovered the layers. I've done it. You know, and I've seen the situation where my friend, where a kid shoved me into a locker senior year of high school, where the entire school thought that I was this Twitter account and I wasn't. And I saw it in 2020 and I was like, oh man, I have such love for this kid, you know, even though you know he was doing his best in that moment, even though he caused me harm in that moment, I love him, like, and I genuinely want the best for him and I want the best for me.

Who starts lifting weights as a result of that scenario, because I felt like I'm so insecure I'm 140 pounds, so can wet, you know like what is wrong with me? I felt so emasculated and so you realize I was holding onto that burden for seven years or eight years of my life and that was causing so much pain and suffering for other people without even realizing it, and probably was one of the reasons why I didn't have enough courage to start Carpe Diem when I graduated college. All that to say. It's like we all have those people situations and the more you look at it and the more you meet that with love and compassion, the better your life gets.

0:48:05 - Speaker 1 I know it because I'm proof, Barn on Barn on man. You're someone that I think I would say you're very sharp and we talked about you know kind of like preparation and presence, but I'm curious, to sit down and to be as present, it takes more than preparation. What do you do? What do you contribute to a level of, I'll say, cognition, mental acuity, Like how do you prepare your body and your mind specifically to enable you to drop into presence and to stay there, Because that is pretty damn uncomfortable for a lot of people.

0:48:51 - Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a great question. A couple of things come to mind immediately that I had no control over, at least seemingly is that my grandpa would go around the table and he'd ask us questions when we were eating all the time. What do you think about this situation? What about this? How do you think this person react? And it was always from a place of deep presence and deep caring. My mother is also like a could be a therapist, like just such a warm and kind woman who's able to ask thoughtful questions that help. So it's like some of it is outside of my control and some of it I'm so grateful for. Sounds like some nature or some nurture Correct.

So that's the nature element I'll attribute to the genetics, let's say. But the nurture, the things that I've done. You know, nurture refers often to the parents and what they've done to you, but in this case, the nurture of what I've nurtured in myself is, wherever I go, I'm surrounded by books, I'm surrounded by knowledge and ideas. And it's like I noticed this when I was living in San Diego. I'm like, oh my God, there's suddenly like 40 books around me. Like where did these come from? You know, they came from just like the library and me ordering stuff and just like, okay, then I would go back home. And it's like 500 books around me.

0:50:10 - Speaker 1 Then I'm going like, and it just books are always around my man's keeping Amazon a business. Yes, absolutely.

0:50:16 - Speaker 2 And so I would say books have been a huge part in the evolution and growth and I'll give a few if people are curious. On New Earth by Eckerd Tolle hugely important to my evolution is when I started meditating that I have really a lot to thank for. The surrender experiment by Michael Singer, incredible memoir of deep surrender and letting go and love yourself like your life depends on it. By Kamal Ravikant Three books that just shape my worldview so much that really helped bring me to greater presence, greater cognition, greater awareness and to allow me to drop into presence more easily.

0:50:52 - Speaker 1 Okay, I like that. I like that. Let me ask a second level question to that. I know that you train. I know that you honor your body. I know that you have a lot of practices, habits, fitness, nutrition, supplementation and stacks all that. Is there anything maybe that you would really give a lot of credit to, as, like I know, I'm not as sharp if I don't do this.

0:51:16 - Speaker 2 Yeah, thank you for taking me down that track, because running has been transfer. I've noticed how my sharpness has increased as I've run, which I'm like how so? So I run without headphones and I run in nature often, so it's one very meditative. It's like just the scenes around Austin alone are just so beautiful and transcendent, and so I feel myself drop into presence by virtue of running often, but I view it as like when I'm doing it afterwards, I'm just like on a different level of understanding, awareness, ability to connect things that I wasn't before.

I noticed a clear before and after and I tweeted yesterday like running increases your consciousness and I genuinely believe that to be true, based on my experience. So that's like one physical practice, and for the past five years like maybe six years I've consistently lifted weights and that's been a huge practice just to make my body and mind feel good. It's definitely related as well. Long ago was also huge for increasing my cognition, which I started in September 2019. So I mean, all of it adds to it. The body and the mind are one, and if you want to test this, literally do nothing for a week and see what happens.

0:52:39 - Speaker 1 I don't recommend it but purely for the sake of science, if you want to have a fair baseline, do it. I was kind of there. I mean, the last couple of weeks we've been traveling, I've been really out of my routine and the holidays and foods and treats and drinks and all this stuff. When I got here I stepped foot in the gym. I was just like I could feel every cell of my body rejoicing, and the level of sharpness that came back, the level of just everything. Oh, this is how I'm supposed to feel and perform.

0:53:09 - Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a really special thing. And then to be able to do with friends too. I have this run club that I started. 7 AM on Tuesday mornings, austin, texas. Dm me If you are available or interested. We do four miles of like a nine, 10 minute pace. It's like you do that in nature, you do that with friends, you do that, you run. It's like you've basically won the day before 830. And you have a coffee after it, like come on, what's better than that? So I think that like doing all of that like really just makes me feel so great, it makes me feel so sharp.

0:53:45 - Speaker 1 Do you ever wonder, do you ever worry you're going to reach what I'll call, I guess, an event horizon in your pursuit of knowledge and the myriad of interviews that you have and the learning, the books, all the things. Maybe this is just my kind of experience shining through, but I'm like all right, so strictly podcast talking over 800 episodes technically, I think numbers wise it's like high sevens but some other special ones in there and I'm just like I find it I don't want to say more difficult to find guests and topics that I want to talk about. Or I feel like I'm going to like learn something from. I'm finding myself becoming a lot more strict with my criteria for the conversation that I know I need to have, not just that I can have Over 400 episodes In it, day in, day out, just continuously learning. Do you ever worry that there's going to be a point where learning becomes much more difficult and less frequent?

0:54:56 - Speaker 2 You know it's really interesting. I don't have that particular worry, but I do resonate with what you're saying a lot in that I am now the bar for the type of conversation I want to have is way different than it was when I started. It was way different than it was a year ago or two years ago, because when you reach a new level of consciousness, you realize how good that felt and you realize, like, I can't go back to just wanting the information for the sake of the information. No, no, I now need to have a conversation that's full of love and that's the genuine truth. And so when we spoke, I felt genuine love and I intended for that to be. Otherwise, I wouldn't have invited you onto the podcast when I interview Mike Posner.

Genuine love how do we grow our business or how do we get more followers? Like to me, I'm just not interested. And so, by virtue of that, there's less people speaking with genuine love. According to David Hawkins, only 4% of people reach a state of consciousness of love, and so, yeah, there'll be less people potentially for me to speak to. Or maybe the people who aren't in that state of love want to feel that love. So I don't know, I don't view it as a worry per se. I view it as just I'm evolving as a podcast host and that means changing the criteria or changing that inherently just come up and I'm excited to see how that unfolds. Because on the other side of worry is excitement.

0:56:23 - Speaker 1 Yeah, brother, absolutely yeah.

So let's maybe kind of take that concept and bring it and bring it and bring it, and bring it, and bring it, and bring it, and bring it, and bring it, and bring it, and bring it, and bring it. And you're saying anything negative about any kind of person like this, but just you know, for lack of a better term just the average Joe, the average person. You know, I'm trying to take care of my body, I'm trying to, you know, level up in my job, I'm trying to be a good partner if I'm in a relationship or want to put myself out there for a while, and there's. You know, I don't know what the best me looks like or feels like. I don't know what I'm capable of, but I know that it's more than where I'm at right now. How would you advise them to put their consciousness, their psyche, their curiosity in a ready state so that maybe they do get to the point of they're like I don't know how much else I can learn because I'm here, I got a lot going on. Yeah, it's a great question.

0:57:29 - Speaker 2 A couple of things. What scares you and what upsets you? If you could really sit with, I mean, I was scared to post a video of myself in 2019. So if I could have, just if I could have done that, I would have transcended something by virtue of doing that.

0:57:47 - Speaker 1 So learning how to better navigate fear.

0:57:49 - Speaker 2 Yeah.

0:57:50 - Speaker 1 Become honest. Maybe becoming honest, maybe for the first time, of what does scare you and then doing something to like kind of be in the presence of it.

0:57:59 - Speaker 2 Yeah Now, and I feel like you're in very much the same boat of like you see something that scares you. You're like, yes, like good, exactly as Jaco would say.

Yeah, matt Troy texts me on December 30th say hey, do you want to run a marathon tomorrow? And I had run a marathon on December 2nd and I've been training now for my second marathon, february 18th. And it's December 30th and I get that text and I'm like bro, I'm. I don't know if I could do this. I'm scared. I'm scared to know like, am I the type of person who just receives a text and then can do a marathon? Like bro? That's like I. I didn't even start running till six months ago.

0:58:43 - Speaker 1 So let me ask you right there in that moment yeah, how do you know how to best respond to a question like that, when, when you go, if you get very real and go, is this something that I'm just afraid of, or this is just something that's just not me?

0:58:55 - Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, I knew I had 14 miles on the books, so I was running 14 miles on Sunday and I sat with myself and I I immediately what came up was all the fears, was my mom's perspective. Are you getting that hurt? You know, like, are you sure you want to do this? Are you, are you really capable of doing this? And I heard myself of being like dude, that's a dumb idea. Like you're going to get injured. You're going to like there's, there's no you know the what ifs.

Yeah, exactly, and I, I bring you down, and that's my first reaction. And then I sat with it and I really closed my eyes and I and I just was like well what if like the other?

what if? What if you do it? What if you actually can transcend this 14 mile run and make it a 28 mile run? What if like? What type of person would do that? What precautions could you take to make sure that you are in the best possible position to train the following week? What? What might this give you? What is the memory that's going to happen as a result?

So the I saw the first what ifs and then I saw the second and when I really sat with it I was like I'm scared to do this and I'm going to do it. I couldn't go to sleep that night. I was literally in my. I was more nervous for this than I was the actual marathon that I ran on December 2nd, because I knew that it said something different about me that I could just do it with no training, 12, 18 hours notice, and I was excited to find out the possibility. I mean, there were four guys that started with us. One dropped off after 10 miles God bless them. 10 mile run is no joke. Another dropped off after 15 to 18 miles God bless them, that's no joke. But to just finish and know that I was capable was the first time where I was like I'm a real runner, I'm a real runner.

1:00:56 - Speaker 1 Fear, then I would say is really, it's the wrong question when we are facing fear, or even think we might run into fear, it's I don't know how to navigate the situation. That's the wrong question, man. It really needs to be. What if I could? Because when you go, I don't know how to deal with this. You are stuck. You're going to stay in fear and worry and anxiety and you will never find a solution Because you're already.

The question is your belief system. But if you switch, even if you're faking it, if you don't believe it yet to go, what if I did do this thing? What if you cannot say those two words? What if, without beginning to get curious about something, what if I did run this marathon? Okay, what does that look like Saying, what if, like you can't not visualize, I believe yourself actually crossing the finish line or in the race running it? Once you can believe it, or once you can hypothesize it, see it in your mind's eye, it doesn't take that long for it to become a belief of what you can do and then you figure out how to do it.

1:02:16 - Speaker 2 Yeah, so tying it all back. For the listener or somebody on the other end, it's like feel that thing that scares you. Look at the thoughts that come up initially and then sit with yourself, take a minute pause to really be with the thought and see what's underneath it. Is there some deeper truth that could help transcend you into who you want to be? Because if there is, that's the very thing that you need to do. And it all ties back to letting go. Letting go of those initial thoughts and those ideas, because that's just the ego. The truth of that moment is the soul.

1:02:52 - Speaker 1 I'm curious, Danny, in your day-to-day life, what has changed as you ask questions of other people in your day-to-day life, has it prompted you to ask more questions of yourself? Do you find yourself questioning everything just out of the sake of habit? What does that look like now, off air?

1:03:13 - Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a great question. I found about a year or two into the podcast I'd done maybe 100 to 200, maybe 300 episodes. A lot of people, a lot of people and maybe once a week maybe more people would say that's a great question. I never thought of that. Oh, wow, wow. So like it was cool to see that skill develop because I was never. I never got that feedback from people before doing the podcast, but now it's not even that's a great question.

It's like that question helped me transcend the way I think of myself and the world around me. So that's a common thing that I see is like helping people. They're not just good questions, they're questions that transcend people's love and freedom for themselves. And that's what I hope to do with the podcast to ask questions that the listener might say, oh, wow, what would that mean for me or my life? And I think it's a deepening I mean dude, an actual, real story about this. There's a few that come to mind, but I was in a coffee shop and I was standing at line at one of these coffee shops a month ago and I saw a guy had a Vietnam War hat on and I started asking about oh, what was that, like he's standing behind me in line and he was like dude, like it was crazy. He's like, actually, like when I was like thank you for your service, and he was like dude, like when I was growing up and when I was coming home, people were not happy and were not thanking me for my service because like that was looked down upon and it was honestly, I think, what he said.

Reagan took office, people started to appreciate the service and I was like dude. What was it actually like to come home? This 70 year old man starts crying in front of me and he starts saying my mom, just I had no clue. My mom had no clue that I was coming home. I saw in her face just the love and what I had done and she was so, so proud, so grateful and like that made it all worth it. And then, 70 year old man in a coffee shop that I've met for five minutes Start talking a little more. This man's mother and father owned a liquor store across the street from my high school. No way, you just start looking around at life and be like holy shit, what in the world is happening? Yeah?

1:06:10 - Speaker 1 So power of connection that's waiting behind a question.

1:06:13 - Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so how has my life transformed? I mean, how has my life not transformed and how has that helped the people around me relieve their suffering?

1:06:25 - Speaker 1 I mean, this man probably had not thought about that situation in 50 years Probably spent a lot of time and energy trying to make sure that he didn't think about that.

1:06:35 - Speaker 2 But I was holding him with love and compassion and say, no, let's go there. And what a beautiful, beautiful thing that is to be able to give someone that gift.

1:06:47 - Speaker 1 So the real lesson here is if you're in line behind Danny in a coffee shop, be prepared, be prepared, everybody, you're going to go there. I got a quote here from you that would love to kind of unpack with you now. True success is peace of mind. Easier said than done. Right, is this even possible?

1:07:10 - Speaker 2 Yes, Absolutely possible. How? By looking at all of the places that you are not free, looking at everything that upsets your peace of mind, looking at everything and being honest and having mirrors to reflect and really sitting with? Okay, like I hate when this person does that. Why?

1:07:30 - Speaker 1 What's behind that?

1:07:31 - Speaker 2 What's behind that, what's behind that, what's behind that, and you get to a place of understanding. First it's acceptance of that situation and then, if you love that situation that once upset you, that's a now peace of mind situation. So that's true for people that upset you, that's true for specific situations that upset you, that's true for it all. You get to peace of mind by letting go of the things that are your insecurities, which that is the reason why you're upset with something is because you're insecure about something often, and it by looking at them and by sitting with them and running towards them. Dude it is.

It is what I wish for every human being to experience Just the feeling of genuine peace of mind, the feeling of genuine this moment is perfect, just the way it is, because what gets in the way of that is oh man, sally cut me off in traffic yesterday, or like this woman, and it's so bad the weather, like there's so much clutter that gets in the way of presence, so much noise so much noise, so much noise, and so the less of that you have, the more of that you've looked at, the more peace of mind you have, and it's absolutely possible to get to a state of every moment being peace of mind and we just give it free rent.

1:08:47 - Speaker 1 Yes, we give it free rent up here all the time, up here and down here, head in the heart, absolutely.

1:08:52 - Speaker 2 And we're not willing to look at it because we are feeling so proud of our insecurity. We're feeling so proud of our situation. There's a better truth, yeah, yeah, and it's like it's okay. I've been there Like at no judgment towards that. But if you want peace of mind which is why you are trying to make a billion dollars or have a million followers is often because you just just want to have the peace of mind of knowing you're loved and accepted.

1:09:20 - Speaker 1 That's it. That's it Really. That's it. I want to check in with you, you know, kind of personally, on your goals now. We're early sill, we're just like the first week in January 2024, but I saw you share that your 2024 plans are to be present, work hard and answer the call. We've touched on quite a bit on being present. I think there's a lot there for the listeners to kind of take home, but work hard and answer the call. How are you going to do that? What does that look like? It's a great question.

1:09:55 - Speaker 2 So work hard for me means that I'm going to honor life's moments with okay, so you're, let's say, in the consciousness example that we started the podcast off that I was so excited about. It's clear that my presence has allowed me to really tap into this of like this is interesting to me. Okay, so now the call. Answering the call is like working hard at understanding what is this? Where did this muscle testing come from? What about this is fascinating? Is this really true for everyone? What could it look like to have a map for people?

1:10:34 - Speaker 1 What could it look like to show more people this consciousness map Like so it's more like I'm hearing appreciation of the discovery, but next level is questioning the discovery itself.

1:10:48 - Speaker 2 And that's the working hard. So like, okay, you want to run a marathon. Okay, like, what does that look like? How are you going to go about that? Well, now it's going to require six days a week of training. You want to hit a 324 marathon. That is honoring the present moment. Honoring and working hard is like doing the actual work, like in the practical sense. But doing the practical work of you're going to run five days a week, six days a week, are you ready to do that? Yes, and that is answering the call of like. I feel so excited about running. I feel my consciousness rising by virtue of me running. So that is that is answering the call. That's working hard to me.

1:11:25 - Speaker 1 You showed me as a guy that maybe on paper you set goals, maybe in your mind you set goals, but I feel it's more like you set and uphold standards. Would you agree? And if so, what standards do you currently have and how do you uphold them in your life?

1:11:47 - Speaker 2 So, dude, I'm doing 75 hard right now and I haven't told anyone that Wow, okay, is this your first time doing it? No, I've done it four times. I feel like I've seen you do it before Andy Forsell changed my life. I mean, I haven't shared a lot publicly about it, but that was one hell of an episode.

1:12:02 - Speaker 1 Yeah, great interview.

1:12:04 - Speaker 2 It was one hell of an episode because he impacted me at a deep level in September of 2019, when I did the program for the first time. So the I'm doing it again now and the standard that I'm holding for myself that has transformed everything I do for the past 17, 18 days is you're doing two workouts a day, you're drinking a gallon of water, you are reading 10 pages of a nonfiction book, you are taking a progress picture and you're following a diet and those standards, as well as hitting my workout for the running, as well as meditating 20 minutes every day. These are like non-negotiables. Part of me is that and like dude, I went to bed last night at three in the morning because I'm reading David Hawkins' power verse force and I get so caught up reading it that I'm like it's two in the morning and I haven't done my second workout yet, and so I'm doing yoga from two to two five am and I'm like I don't want to be doing this, but I'm going to do it. All right, andy, did you hear that?

1:13:12 - Speaker 1 We'll make this a clip and send it to Andy, because, bro, but I at 2am, at 2am and I have not upholded the standard that I set for myself. But I will now Correct.

1:13:21 - Speaker 2 And it's, and it's a choice. It's genuinely a choice to go to bed or to not. And you know, every part of me did not want to do that yoga session. Every part of me was just like I don't. This is so pointless, no one's going to know. But guess what? Now a lot of people know that I did that by virtue of like and I'm like and I ran for an hour and a half and I was like can't that be enough? That was one workout. I did my 45 minutes twice Like, but no, like, it's two workouts, so like do the second workout. And so I'm so happy you brought up the standards piece, because I, when I set the standards for myself, I've seen it transform everything around my life just in the past two or three weeks, and I know, whenever I do the program, it elevates me to a new level. There's no way I would have ran a spontaneous marathon had it not been for doing the program, because I know, oh, I'm the type of person who does that.

1:14:10 - Speaker 1 And you know, to kind of piggyback off that I'll say to have people around you that also uphold their own standards but are willing to invite you into them. Like getting to know Matt more the last couple of months, like that is such such a matte text. Like, hey, what are you doing tomorrow? Do you want to run a marathon? When you told me that I'm like bro, I know you literally. Just like the week before ran 900 miles. He ran across Korea. Yeah, like Matt, take a break bro.

But like no, he has a standard for his life that works for him and fits him and is his truth. But you don't have to force feed it, you don't have to overextend and push it onto other people. But when you invite people in to a standard you have uphold, because they know in some capacity you're there too. Like that is how. That is how the gap is filled of I'm struggling, I don't know if I can meet my standard. I'm going to phone it in to you know what. All right, it's not about me right now. It's not about me.

1:15:20 - Speaker 2 Dude. It's so crazy and he's a perfect example of that too. December 31st, he doesn't have to run that marathon. No, I'm doing 12 marathons in 12 months and I don't want to do this 12 one. And it's the last day of the year and no one's going to know that I didn't do this. But he knew and he said I'm going to wake up at seven in the morning on the day before New Year's, I'm going to run this marathon and I'm going to run it with me. You know, I'm going to run it with other people and getting other people involved and setting that set, like dude I had. So I can't wait to record a podcast with him on Saturday, a week after doing it. Because I swear, something happened when you, when you have that shared mission with someone for four hours of just like running through and working through things with them, oh my God, yeah, it's like a third person gets created. Yeah, where it's you, it's this other person and there's the shared mission, and I felt like wow we are bonded.

1:16:12 - Speaker 1 The collective you Correct yeah.

1:16:14 - Speaker 2 You get bonded, similar to a podcast. Yeah, like really challenges you or pushes you. Like you there's something greater that's happening, that is involved in the room.

1:16:22 - Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a lot of stories on that. That that triggered a lot of a lot of things. We'll save that for another conversation. Man, I want to ask you a couple of key questions here, as we kind of get towards the end. How do you deal with failure? How do you deal with rejection?

1:16:40 - Speaker 2 Rejection in terms of podcasting has always been relatively easy for me to deal with.

1:16:47 - Speaker 1 What does that look like? Maybe kind of describe that.

1:16:49 - Speaker 2 The only way you could get rejected is if you reject yourself. So if a podcast guest doesn't want to come on the show, like okay, like that's amazing. Someone doesn't respond to me, someone ignores me. So I don't take any of it personally, because I know I'm valuable, I know I'm loved, I know I'm I'm, I know I'm worthy, and if this person doesn't want to be on my show has nothing to do with me. So I have that core belief and that is cool to extend to other areas of your life too. It's true for women, it's true for friends, it's true for everything. I know I'm good and so if I know I'm good, like if you don't want to be with good, that's great, like genuine, like. I feel so at peace with that in terms of rejection, because I don't view it as rejection. I view it as like you need to reject yourself in order to really get rejected. Failure what's failure? Like I don't like my podcast has laughs.

1:17:53 - Speaker 1 What is failure? Yeah?

1:17:55 - Speaker 2 seriously. It's like it's a great question. But it's also like I think a lot of people might say to themselves okay, danny's been podcasting for three years. He's got 400 plus episodes with some of the greatest minds and thinkers in the world, including chase tuning. It's like max tuning, chase tuning again. A second like okay, this podcast should be seen millions of times. This podcast should be seen billions of times, like, whatever People might view the fact that it's not as a failure.

And I get that comment sometimes of like dude, how do you have such a happy disposition with like it not working out? How come your podcasts get hundreds of views instead of tens of thousands or hundreds? I'm like we are viewing life from a different metric of success like genuinely. And so I know I'm not failing. I would feel like I was failing if I was chasing something that I didn't value, and so I know it. There it is. I know at every moment I'm living to my values, which are love, freedom, god expansion, love freedom, god expansion Like genuine values. So if I'm living by that which I feel I am in every moment, then I'm winning.

1:19:18 - Speaker 1 What is a fond memory that you have, or maybe a recent, random, yet fond memory that has come up for you, and how do you not get stuck in the past when remembering something that fulfills you, that you give a lot of credit to? I want to ask you specifically because I feel like a lot of people struggle with that we get stuck in the past, in the good old days, or I should have done this, should have done that. How do you reflect without getting stuck?

1:19:53 - Speaker 2 What happened happened and it couldn't have happened any other way, because it didn't.

1:19:58 - Speaker 1 I did not give him this question ahead of time. My man just came out guns of blazing with that one shot, one kill answer.

1:20:05 - Speaker 2 That is Peter Crohn's quote that I've memorized and Peter Crohn's preparation. The past happened and it's great to get involved in the story of the past if you want. If you had a particular achievement that you enjoyed great, get involved in it. But it also has no bearing on what is happening right now. It is a completely different moment and I love thinking about that time that I interviewed Mike Poser, that time that I interviewed Andy Fursala, that time that I interviewed Chase Shooting Dude. Those are great moments, truly. But also if I want to be present to the creation of what's happening, I can't live in that moment. I can live in it for a moment, but I can't live in it in this moment. So I think I just don't give that much weight to the past. I love playing with it, but I don't have any attachment to it. Are there particular things you have attachment to of the past? What is the purpose or reason behind that question?

1:21:13 - Speaker 1 In total honesty, danny, please. You are very good at what you do and I spent time just trying to come up with questions that I felt you would appreciate and would be worthy of someone as yourself to ponder, looking for a way to honor this moment, honor this conversation with something unique, and that was a challenge for me to hopefully challenge you.

1:21:47 - Speaker 2 I really appreciate that and I'm honored that people want to honor the moment in that way and want to challenge my thinking or ideas or perspectives, and I am so grateful for that.

1:22:02 - Speaker 1 You're very welcome, man. And this is where I kind of go back to my question about do you worry about this event horizon of learning and growth For me? I've been kind of feeling that way a little bit, particularly in the show. By no means do I so absolutely love this, I love it. But I've realized that I mean the same argument can be made with anything we put our attention and time to. When we commit to daily reps, year after year after year after year, you are going to inevitably reach a point and go all right, maybe I take it, just step back and let me just get a bigger lay of the land here. Yeah, you know there's necessity and power in the doing and in the daily reps. Absolutely that is going to compound to get you to where you want to be and where you don't even know you want to be. But personally I'm just at this point of going okay, what to your point? What if I did the rep differently?

1:23:08 - Speaker 2 Yeah.

1:23:09 - Speaker 1 You know, I mean maybe don't know. See, I'm learning, you're teaching me here. I'm reflecting on just what we said a few minutes ago. Maybe there's a little bit of fear in there of how am I going to grow and evolve as a creator, as a podcast host, as an interviewer, as a conversator, if that's a word. But instead it's like what if I did the rep differently? What does that look like? That's what I'm here to discover.

1:23:37 - Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it's such a beautiful question and I think we're it's like mirrors at this point, because I'm also at that stage an evolution of done this 400 times and also, like I know, this isn't the final evolution of what this is going to become and I don't know what that looks like. I think the difference between you and me right now, in this moment, is I'm doing without fear and I'm doing it with pure love and curiosity, which I know you're capable of Absolutely, and I know like, and the love and curiosity is still there for sure.

1:24:08 - Speaker 1 I don't know viewers, I love you, I love you, guess pass future guess. I love you, danny, I love you, but it's just. There's a growth moment, I think, in anything that we choose to do for an extended period of time. Maybe there's. There are the cases out there where it's like no 10, 20, 50, 60 years, just for the love of the rep, for the love of the game, absolutely. I, I can see how that might, down the road, make me feel like it's monotonous, and I know myself and I know that I do not grow when I'm living in monotony. To a certain degree there is, I think it's from the one thing you know. There's the monotony of success. Right, you got to have those reps, you got to do these little things, but that doesn't mean that you have to say the same person, that means the reps, they don't have to stay the same. The work needs to be there, but how you do it can change and I would dare even say like should.

1:25:07 - Speaker 2 I would absolutely agree with you, and it's similar to someone right now who's like I've been lifting weights for five years and I know my cardio base isn't there. I know I'm not flexible enough. What does this look like exactly? Cause.

I know I'm pretty good at what I'm doing, but I also know like there's more out there and like how do I develop? And is CrossFit the right thing for me, or is yoga, or what should I do? I heard Danny's talking about running, so it's like you're in that phase. We're both in that phase of like we know there's something else, and so my perspective on it is like I graduated college, I didn't know what was coming next. I didn't know how it would develop. I just know it developed exactly as it was supposed to, because it did, because I can see that so clearly. There's a perfection in every moment. You cannot do it wrong. What would it look like if you couldn't do it wrong?

1:26:02 - Speaker 1 It would look like you not doing it. That's, I think, the only wrong way to do anything.

1:26:08 - Speaker 2 And even if you didn't do anything, what would be so wrong about that?

1:26:15 - Speaker 1 I. There is the rub. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good question.

1:26:21 - Speaker 2 Like in what is doing nothing. Is that even possible to do nothing? You look at someone like what came to mind for me me initially doing nothing is like someone meditating. Are they really doing nothing if they're just meditating?

1:26:31 - Speaker 1 No, I would argue they're doing everything. As someone who was new to meditation last few months, it is not nothing, by any means, it is everything.

1:26:39 - Speaker 2 Yeah, it is everything. Yeah, so what is nothing?

1:26:43 - Speaker 1 Nothing is made up, nothing is not real. There is no nothing. Really, yeah, it's impossible. There is no nothing.

1:26:49 - Speaker 2 Yeah, see, if you can't do it wrong.

1:26:51 - Speaker 1 Yeah, there's only a change of pace. But even in like the sitting and quote doing nothing, I mean like we are still. We are still a combination of frequencies existing by doing all of the things.

1:27:10 - Speaker 2 Yeah, life will give you exactly what it is supposed to give you, for you to learn, exactly what you're supposed to learn. And if you genuinely accept that is true, then you realize you can't do it wrong and you realize, okay, if I go and do the podcast slightly differently or I change up the way that I do content and yeah, you know, like here's a fun little fun fact.

1:27:35 - Speaker 1 I wonder if you can relate. So I've been. Now we're in January 22nd. 2024 will mark seven years of Ever Ford radio. Incredible, incredible, thank you, and I do not see myself stopping in another seven years, another 27 years, and maybe it changes involves right, but like pretty much every episode I would say weekly in some capacity, still seven years in, I'm changing something.

There is something different than I'm doing, whether it's what I brought to the table for that interview, it's a technical adjustment, maybe with a camera or microphone, it's copy in the show notes, it's feedback and analysis with the production team, it's all the weekly and this is something that I've got.

A good thing going. You know things are working and I could really just copy a formula, but like, I feel like that would be the biggest disservice to my standard, my own integrity, but also to this and to the audience. I think about if I was, if I found something that worked for me and I found something that I enjoyed and I found out that it was just copy paste, copy paste, like the old adage of like you know, the best foods are made with love and you can take the same recipe made by the different people, one made with love, is like they. They did something slightly different. It was they put the salt in after the butter, or they baked it for 30 seconds longer, followed the same directions, but like the execution and the energy exchange in that process. That's what makes it different. That's what makes it different and the second that that goes away for me. You won't see me here anymore, yeah.

1:29:24 - Speaker 2 I mean that's that's such a beautiful way to think about your own process and your creation. It's like, are you really putting the love into it? And if you're not, that might be a sign that that's not for you anymore. So like that's a great test, I mean. I think about, like Kobe Bryant talking about like when I stopped loving practice, I stopped playing, like that is there's a huge truth to that and there's a huge truth to loving. And that's not to say you're going to love every bit of every aspect of it, but loving the thing, like, and loving the thing means putting your full heart into it, whatever that means for your thing.

1:30:00 - Speaker 1 Well, my dude, I want to ask you my final question. There's somebody that embodies the mantra of this show and the philosophy that I have chosen to live my life by, and every person here on the show, no matter what they're here to talk about, no matter their walk of life. First and foremost, I have to connect with them on this, and I see you moving forward and I see you living a life ever forward. I have my ideas and interpretations of what that means, but I want to ask you, man, those two words, what do they mean to you? How do you live a life ever forward?

1:30:34 - Speaker 2 Expanding my consciousness, living with more love, with more joy, with more appreciation, with more gratitude, with more peace every moment. And I've been able to witness in my life the choices that I could have made that would have kept my consciousness the exact same Could have got a job in New York City, working, could have stayed at home, could have seen meditation and just been like, yeah, that was cool, but I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. I saw the places in my life where I could have stopped. But to me, to live ever forward means to expand one's consciousness and, yeah, I'm grateful that you're someone who is expanding your consciousness every day, and on that mission as well, because to me, that's the real ever forward.

1:31:20 - Speaker 1 There's never a right or wrong answer, man. I appreciate everyone's interpretation. Danny, where can my audience go to connect with you and learn more about what you got going on most in the world?

1:31:28 - Speaker 2 Yeah, the Danny Miranda podcast is currently where I'm recording stuff, putting stuff out. And hey, danny Miranda on Twitter X is my favorite place, so Twitter game strong.

1:31:38 - Speaker 1 I appreciate it. Twitter game strong, yeah, man.

1:31:40 - Speaker 2 Thank you for having me. It's a true pleasure. You're an incredibly present human being and you're so like. You have such a real kind, good heart, like it just shines through in a way that is helpful and really just like giving love to the other person.

1:31:55 - Speaker 1 So thank you for being here and I received that. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you For more information on everything you just heard. Make sure to check this episode, show notes or head to everforward radiocom.